Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-08-27 Thread Tim Vandermeersch
Hi Igor, On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Igor Filippov wrote: > I'd like to pitch in about the changes in aromaticity perception - it > looks like the more recent version of OB (2.3.1) is not recognizing one > of the rings in the attached image as aromatic. I set atomic numbers for > Z and D to

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-08-27 Thread Igor Filippov
I'd like to pitch in about the changes in aromaticity perception - it looks like the more recent version of OB (2.3.1) is not recognizing one of the rings in the attached image as aromatic. I set atomic numbers for Z and D to 0. I think the behavior was different before. I would much prefer to see

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-17 Thread Tom Allison
One more interesting (and related) case: pleiadene Carbons 3 and 8 are labelled as radical centers. Clearly this is a consequence of the xyz format as you point out below. Tom - 30 C 0.0308731391 1.4691736561 0.0066435902 C 0.0509994911 -0.0014052265

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-17 Thread Tom Allison
I am happy to send you the entire test set if you are interested. Just reply to me off list. Tom -- Dr. Thomas C. Allison, NIST thomas.alli...@nist.gov 301-975-2216 On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: >> Let me start with a little more background on the problem. I am usin

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-17 Thread Craig James
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Noel O'Boyle wrote: > Well, Geoff, if you're going to be working on this I've recently been > subjecting ChEMBL to some canonicalisation tests, and can supply a good few > more test cases. I'll wrap them up and email them to you off list tomorrow. Would it be poss

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-17 Thread Noel O'Boyle
Well, Geoff, if you're going to be working on this I've recently been subjecting ChEMBL to some canonicalisation tests, and can supply a good few more test cases. I'll wrap them up and email them to you off list tomorrow. - Noel On 17 April 2012 15:11, Geoffrey Hutchison wrote: > > Let me start

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-17 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
> Let me start with a little more background on the problem. I am using Pybel > to extract the information I need about a set of ~875 PAH molecules > (including alkyl substituted and radical PAHs). ... > "signature" of an error is typically that a C atom is labelled as sp3 > hybridized when it o

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-17 Thread Tom Allison
Oops, I forgot to reply to the list…Noel,Thank you for your email. I appreciate your help on this.Let me start with a little more background on the problem. I am using Pybel to extract the information I need about a set of ~875 PAH molecules (including alkyl substituted and radical PAHs). I gave th

Re: [Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-10 Thread Noel O'Boyle
As you've found, the aromacticity detection algorithm is not 100% foolproof. If you could collect samples of failure, I'll file a bug report on your behalf. - Noel On 6 April 2012 22:30, Tom Allison wrote: > Hi all: > > When I use the following file named ("2175908.xyz") > > 32 > > C -0

[Open Babel] problem with aromaticity

2012-04-06 Thread Tom Allison
Hi all: When I use the following file named ("2175908.xyz") 32 C -0.291523 0.3160533892 0.391375 C -0.0001205266 1.6897724142 -0.354856 C -1.1476732403 2.5783557540 -0.2608024912 C -0.7134957259 3.8662394928