[obrolan-bandar] BUMI 5X

2008-03-31 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Indonesia's Bumi 2007 net profit expected up fivefold on one-off gains --- By Roffie Kurniawan --- JAKARTA (Thomson Financial) - Indonesian giant coal producer PT Bumi Resources is expected to report early next week a nearly fivefold increase in net profit for 2007, aided by robust sales and

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: hots

2008-03-31 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Atau wind-fall profitnya diumpetin? Tilep .. eh Dilep, pernah bikin statement 79% coal-sales BUMI tidak berbasis kontrak atau mengikuti harga pasar, jadi berlawanan dengan ITMG. Tunggu audited LK :) kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BUMI rada asem di

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI income mu berapa?

2008-03-31 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Bumi Resources' Net Profit US$0.04307 per Share - Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:46:43 StockWatch (Jakarta) - "Is it true that Bumi Resources' net earning per share was US$43.07 in 2007?" an investor asked e-Bursa.com on Tuesday (1/4) after PT Bumi Resources Tb

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: hots

2008-03-31 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
aik 11% dari Selling Price 2006(emang harga batubara sepanjang taun cuman naek 10% apa??). lah ini berarti cuman 2 hal., produksi Turun dr 2006, ato Jualannya yg kurang bagus. ato kita kemakan "iklan-iklan"nya si dileep. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL

Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI April fool ??

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Trending nya mirip waktu City dapat suntikan dari Dubai, Temasek Januari(?) lalu persepsi pasar fundamental institusi untuk sementara stabil ... Q1 City akan writedown $12B, mudah2an injeksinya sudah siap IDX nih yang beneran april fool Sulistyo Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECT

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI akan naikan harga penawaran HERALDS

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Selasa, 01/04/2008 19:30 WIB Bumi Siap Naikkan Tawaran atas Herald Nurul Qomariyah - detikFinance Jakarta - PT Bumi Resources Tbk kemungkinan akan menaikkan tawaran atas Herald Resources Limited. Kemungkinan kenaikan harga itu dikaji setelah Tango Mining Pte Ltd yang merupakan perusaha

Re: [obrolan-bandar] JANGAN BELI BUMI !!!!

2008-04-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Pattern nya mengarah begitu mbah, combine dengan short-selling buat optimize results. The feel of fear is the most when the fear itself come in the (extremely) un-expected moment ... jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peringatan embah jangan BELI BUMI TERBU

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI di 5350 (kemahalan gak?)

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Karena mbah sering bilang "respect the market", dengan asumsi setelah Q3 tidak ada kenaikan value ... maka ada di range 3800~4500, apresiasi pasar setelah Q3 saat itu. Aphiau Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BUMI dalam 52wk Range: 1,310 - 8,150 sekarang 5

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine vs Fred Schubert = ^^ Alien vs Predator ^^

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Real investor can pick-out what is worthy to invest in idx, and there definitely are. I agree that BUMI-quake might affected investor-trust for a moment. Well, we have mr. Eugene, his insght might be helpful for this milist @o@ Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ac

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Reuters on BUMI, THENDRIK : HARGA WAJAR BUMI = 2000-3000

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Kalau BUMI bubble ... bakal induk barunya BNBR jadi apa yah? Apresiasi PTBA lebih realistis nampaknya dengan harga jual ke PLN sekitar 450rb/ton. hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" <[EMAIL PROTECT

[obrolan-bandar] Indonesia's Bumi sees coal sales volume up 12 pct in 2008, price up 40 pct

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Harapan untuk 2010 ??? Indonesia's Bumi sees coal sales volume up 12 pct in 2008, price up 40 pct JAKARTA (Thomson Financial) - Indonesia's biggest coal company PT Bumi Resources Tbk said on Thursday it is expecting its coal sales volume to grow 12 percent this year from 55.4 million tons in 2

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Reuters on BUMI, THENDRIK : HARGA WAJAR BUMI = 2000-3000

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
A WAJAR BUMI = 2000-3000 asap? maksud nya apa ya? dari kemarin pada bicara asap-asap. saya kok tidak mudeng. tolong saya di kasi tau thx --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Bettina Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > menjadi asap >

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Trs: Squawk Box - Breaking News

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Liquified project, harus instalasi dalam skala (besar) tertentu untuk bisa profit bagus. Ini tentu butuh GCG. BUMI kemaren kesulitan menggaet SASOL (penyedia teknologi Liq. utama), karena mereka sibuk di Qatar. Alternatif berikut Japan atau USA, masalah costing & first installment. CBM, komp

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Level 2230, TESTED for the THIRD times

2008-04-03 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Amiin, doa mbah mewakili harapan cucu sekalian jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Level 2230, TESTED for the THIRD times Liat grafik IHSG ini: http://www.invest2000.net/pwlihsg.png Sudah 2 kali level ini di TEST dan berhasil BERTAHAN dan rebound.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] [TA] Review ASII

2008-04-06 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Lha iya, yang bikin berita ndak ngecek angka beneran ... nge-check doang :) Dari Gaikindo optimis kok, angka penjualan naik tahun ini ... indikasi awal di Januari~Maret memperkuat proyeksi peningkatan penjualan 2008 Salam, freez z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tadi g

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Collect ELSA

2008-04-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Alasannya apa ya pak? Realisasi prospek? - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Collect ELSA

2008-04-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
hihihin, dulu pernah optimis pgas 18rb :) nyangkut lagi kah ... emiten migas emang susah2 prediksinya :) btw, elsa sudah membentuk doji, small maru-bozu maru-bozu benerannya kita tunggu deh ... hoki lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: katanya mr.Latuhihin nyangkut

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Collect ELSA

2008-04-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
salah... kenapa kudu malu...kalu ngaku salah nanti... =D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > hihihin, dulu pernah optimis pgas 18rb :) > nyangkut lagi kah ... emiten migas emang susah2 prediksinya :) > > btw,

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Index regional MINUS pagi ini

2008-04-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
woman bah ... galak amat kalau ada maunya Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bukan sandiwara tetapi Elaine bosan, nakal semua. Elaine punya target is STILL 2000. IDX boleh hijau sedikit tetapi merah akan sangat dalam. Kalau mau tetap tahan itu terserah masing-masin

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: KAKEK GREENSPAN : BERHATI HATI SAJALAH CUCUKU !

2008-04-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Menurut pengakuan kakek GREEN, beliau yang mendisain SM-BUBBLE ... untuk mengalihkan energi dari DOT.COM-BUBBLE yang meledak seketika :) Sayangnya waktu serah-terima jabatan ke mr. Baldie ... beliau kelupaan cerita kalau ada bom waktu MADE BY HIMSELF, so bisa dibayangkan seberapa dahsyat bom ya

Re: BI rate 9,25%. [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  buy more? --- On Thu, 12/4/08, artomoro9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: artomoro9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: BI rate 9,25%. [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:21 AM Bank Indonesia memutuskan untuk menurunkan BI Rate s

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SERBU BEJ, BI RATE TURUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  Can't wait Ma'm, Love Ur Deed Ms. K @o@ --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SERBU BEJ, BI RATE TURUN !!! To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:34 AM 'I s

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI RATE TURUN > RUPIAH MENGUAT

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  mean buy more? please? ^o^ --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Kidod25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kidod25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BI RATE TURUN > RUPIAH MENGUAT To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:38 AM HATI-HATI, THIS IS A VERY GOOD SIGNAL --

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI

2008-12-04 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  One (bottom 1) and a Two, Three (bottom 2) and eh Four (AR 20%), early stage up-trend siapa yang punya $o$      --- On Thu, 12/4/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Th

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Rupiah melemah ke 9350 !!!

2008-09-04 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Yg sy fahami saat ini, walaupun mr. Bush stated clearly bahwa US mendorong strong dollar, tetapi kondisi ekonominya belum memungkinkan. Kenapa. Krisis SM lumayan berat, mengingat finance merupakan pilar utama ekonomi, yg satu efek utamanya pelemahan ekonomi dan menurunnya daya beli. Untuk meny

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nickel

2008-09-04 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Mungkin: mereka punya modal besar yg harus diputar dan mining still good business to do so? Gov Indo kan selalu bilang alasan kenapa bangsa kita ndak ngelola mining sendiri, karena ndak ada modal :) --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] 1999.534===>mana komando serbu nya mbah+oentoeng

2008-09-04 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Boleh minta pendapat nih, kira-kira apa yang diperlukan market untuk rebound? Selain target big-player tentunya :) --- On Fri, 9/5/08, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 1999.534===>mana komando serbu nya mbah+oentoeng To: obrolan-bandar@

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 1999.534===>mana komando serbu nya mbah+oentoeng

2008-09-04 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
, DE Pada 5 September 2008 13:01, t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Boleh minta pendapat nih, kira-kira apa yang diperlukan market untuk rebound? Selain target big-player tentunya :) >

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OT - Indah Pada WaktuNya

2008-09-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Iya Om, mendingan cari lahan yg bisa panen 2~3 tahun ya, kudu sabar dan ulet cari lokasi dan musim tanam yg pas nih :) --- On Tue, 9/9/08, t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OT - Indah Pada WaktuNya To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.co

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Discount 50%, as promised, more to go.

2008-09-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Santai aja ya Bu, persiapan butuh waktu ya :) --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Discount 50%, as promised, more to go. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:18 AM Di

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tebak kita menuju Abad ke berapa?

2008-09-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Gajah Mada Majapahit Palapa, 13XX tu pak :) --- On Tue, 9/9/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tebak kita menuju Abad ke berapa? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Knp ELTY turunnya lbh serem dari saham commo...

2008-09-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
RR peluru terisi cuman satu kan Pak, ini seluruhnya ... jadi shoot urself? btw, ELTY membentuk pola double-top sebelum longsor, kira2 titik rebound di mana ya? 210~230? --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Milis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Milis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Knp ELTY

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OPEC decides to curb overproduction

2008-09-09 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Jakarta GMT +7,   Eastern Time GMT -5, jadi +12 jam ke WIB 09.52 PM ET -> 09.52 AM WIB correct? --- On Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OPEC decides to curb overproduction To: obrolan-bandar@yaho

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: Historical view of Major Crash

2008-09-09 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Nikkei dan DJ pada saat berdekatan mengalami hal yg sama, DJ bisa bangkit (3rb to 10rb) karena inovasi ekonomi yg dilakukan mr. clinton & mr. gore, walaupun akhirnya berujung krisis SPM. IDX, perlu dilihat penyebab kejatuhannya ... natural or man-making or else :) --- On Wed, 9/10/08, ki_4e

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SELL COMO BUY UNVR + INDF

2008-09-09 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Mungkin maskudnya om hendrik, saya mau jualan INDF, UNVR, Bank lalu cash-out untuk nampung commodity yg punya prospek saat stone-age nanti :) --- On Wed, 9/10/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SELL COMO BUY UNV

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNVR -6,6% , akhirnya DAPET GILIRAN juga...

2008-09-10 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Biasa mijet2 apa gitu tiap hari, kalo berenti maen saham ... masa jadi tukang pijet mbah :) Canda ya, pasar modal lagi butuh gairah n humour ngkali :) --- On Thu, 9/11/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNVR -6,6%

Re: [obrolan-bandar] analisa kejatuhan bursa BEI....

2008-09-10 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Kalau release resmi, investor asing melepas saham (realisasi profit?). Memberi kesempatan pada investor lokal :) http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2008/09/10/110856/1003619/6/ihsg-jatuh-lagi-bei-minta-investor-tidak-panik Jakarta - IHSG kembali terjatuh cukup dalam hingga 60 poin. Bursa Efek In

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sentiment overview ASII 10000?

2008-09-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Kalau down terus bisa sampai di dasar trend area 9000, kalau boleh naik mungkin boleh mantul di area 13000? --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sentiment overview ASII 1? To: obrolan-banda

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sentiment overview

2008-09-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Commoes are growing much better than bankings? Economic and monetary woes would affect bankings (ly) ? --- On Fri, 9/12/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sentiment overview To: obrolan-band

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG sudah atau dekat bottom???

2008-09-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Pake duit kawin (/lagi) om, kawin bisa ditunda ... kesempatan kaya kapan lagi :) Canda lho --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG sudah atau dekat bottom??? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, Sept

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG sudah atau dekat bottom???

2008-09-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Majapahit Pak, one of the biggest nation ever in the world (kalo sejarah bener lho) --- On Fri, 9/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG sudah atau dekat bottom??? To: "Obrolan Bandar" Date: Frid

Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] lehman out of indonesia market

2008-09-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Mudah2an Sultan Qatar, UAE, Kuwait mo gantiin masuk ... ndak hanya inpest di City ajah --- On Fri, 9/12/08, t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] lehman out of indonesia market To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Hedge Fund AS Bikin Anjlok IHSG

2008-09-12 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
mBatik kok Pak, hanya tinggalnya di PI ato Da Vinci :) --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Hedge Fund AS Bikin Anjlok IHSG To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:40 AM masih percaya bape

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Alert: Euro lagi rebound kencang ke 1,41

2008-09-12 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Hurricane Ike Heads for Texas Coast; Thousands Flee http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ax4kDoAg6pfI&refer=home Texas Coast Ike's center was 265 miles southeast of Galveston and moving west-northwest at 13 mph. Because of its wide diameter, Ike will be felt as a ``ma

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI UPTREND ---> SCEPTICAL TRADER'S mind

2008-09-14 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  Kalau secara TA, seperti yg mbah sampaikan posisi hampir seluruh BC almost di dasar down-trend channel, dgn kemungkinan menembus channel jika market terkoreksi lebih dalam :) Seperti ditengah2 mulut beruang menganga, hampir tertelan?   Senin ijo, mungkin saja ... tapi mungkin basisnya bisa spe

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine's short term target on commodities

2008-09-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Beneran nih? Tough Ma'm! --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine's short term target on commodities To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 4:07 AM ELAINE YAN

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kan gua bilang beli BC!

2008-09-16 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Bu Elaine ndak ikut nyumbang lagu ni, dah ijo ... cendol nya siap ni :) --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kan gua bilang beli BC! To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 8

Re: [obrolan-bandar] 18 Sept 2008 BEI di persimpangan jalan...

2008-09-17 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Pak Tom, sepertinya jika dibanding krisis di awal 90-an krisis SPM ini lumayan parah, dengan indikator utama gugurnya institusi finansial utama US (yg kecil2 pasti bertaburan tidak terkira), satu hal yg dahulu tidak terjadi. Kemudian peluang recovery sangat tergantung pada suntikan likuiditas F

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Komando mbah?

2008-09-17 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Tergantung Fund-Flow, sepertinya begitu ya mbah? Jika oil kembali ke up-trend bisa sideways, sector switching. --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Komando mbah? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thurs

Re: [obrolan-bandar] stock split pgas

2008-07-30 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Setelah SS pergerakan harga lebih ber-pEgas? :) --- On Thu, 7/31/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] stock split pgas To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 2:12 AM Tidak ada

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mbah, Oil Paradox lagi?

2008-07-30 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Yang mau beli di harga tinggi siapa ya :) (jual nya pasti lebih tinggi lagi nanti) --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mbah, Oil Paradox lagi? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2

[obrolan-bandar] BUDI

2008-07-31 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Budi Acid Books IDR64.271 Bn Profit Friday, 1 August 2008 09:32:53 StockWatch (Jakarta) - PT Budi Acid Jaya Tbk (BUDI) booked consolidated net profit of IDR64.271 billion (IDR17 per share) in the first half of 2008, rising sharply by 314% versus IDR15.513 billion (IDR13 per share) in the sa

Re: [obrolan-bandar] The RED SEXY circle

2008-08-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
14:24 ditambah 0.4 jadi 2.08 waduh unsur 4 nya kok jadi banyak :) --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Karno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Karno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The RED SEXY circle To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 6:58 AM Tutup

[obrolan-bandar] Permintaan BBN Transportasi Bakal Naik Tajam di 2010

2008-08-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Permintaan BBN Transportasi Bakal Naik Tajam di 2010 Jakarta - Kebutuhan bahan bakar nabati untuk sektor transportasi diprediksi akan meningkat tajam hingga tahun 2010. Departemen ESDM memprediksi kebutuhan biopremium dan biopertamax sampai tahun 2010 akan mencapai 4 juta kilo liter per tahun, se

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Malaysia pernah bakar CPO di Power Plant beberapa tahun yang lalu. --- On Fri, 8/8/08, sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:AALI target 15.000 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 8:23 AM penuru

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Malaysia pernah bakar CPO di Power Plant beberapa tahun yang lalu. --- On Fri, 8/8/08, sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:AALI target 15.000 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 8:23 AM penuru

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:AALI target 15.000

2008-08-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Malaysia pernah bakar CPO di Power Plant beberapa tahun yang lalu. --- On Fri, 8/8/08, sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re:AALI target 15.000 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 8:23 AM penuru

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sanggupkah anda melihat saham anda turun 50%

2008-08-19 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  Pak Tasrul: hajar PTBA Mbah: hajar BUMI   ada yang mau nambahin :)     --- On Wed, 8/20/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sanggupkah anda melihat saham anda turun 50% To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed

[obrolan-bandar] PE CPO September Jadi 10%

2008-08-21 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Jakarta - Penurunan harga minyak kelapa sawit mentah (CPO) terus terjadi. Rata-rata harga CPO kini sudah mencapai US$ 850 per ton, oleh karena itu pungutan ekspor (PE) turun menjadi 10 persen dari sebelumnya di bulan Agustus sebesar 15 persen. "Saat ini PE (pungutan ekspor) sudah otomatis berubah

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Main bola dan saham - UNSP

2008-06-24 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
masih pada berkebun UNSP, Pak? 30 Juni, AGM akuisisi ARBV 51%. bangsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hati-2 saya malah melihatnya asing kluar dr UNSP pelan.klo dilihat data dr 1 feb 08 .. MINUS 34 jt lembar saham --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kabu Nusi

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUBBLE ENERGY = SELL ENERGY

2008-06-24 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
^ lha ntar Qatari pailit tu? sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2008/6/25, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ASII: for long term investor ASII the cheapest+best non energy BEI stock is NEAR the two year support line. http://www.invest2000.net/pwlasii.png PER ASII =

[obrolan-bandar] Parto dan MIRA

2008-06-25 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Pertamina Masih Inginkan Apexindo *Alih Istik Wahyuni* - detikFinance *Jakarta* - PT Pertamina (Persero) telah menyampaikan keberatan atas hasil penjualan PT Apexindo Pratama Duta Tbk (APEX) kepada PT Mitra Rajasa Tbk. Jika proses lelang harus diulang Pertamina mengaku siap mengajukan tawaranny

Re: [obrolan-bandar] PRODUKSI ETANOL BISA CUKUPI KEBUTUHAN BBM RI

2008-06-25 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Bioethanol 8000/liter, naik seperti CPO ntar? Ada juga dari air pohon nipah, ini tumbuhnya di pesisir seperti pohon bakau.. Cocok untuk menghadapi Global Warming, proteksi daratan Indonesia dari gerusan gelombang laut :) --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Saham Oke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Saham O

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Indonesia Govt More Efficient, Less Corrupt - World Bank...

2008-06-25 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Mudah2an IDX bisa melesat, target2 2010 tercapai :) --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Saham Oke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Saham Oke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Indonesia Govt More Efficient, Less Corrupt - World Bank... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wedne

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP...tobat2 dech

2008-06-25 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Kalau setelah akuisisi ARBV masih di bawah 2000, ndak ada penjelasan lagi why we should keep buying this stock :) --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Sulistyo Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sulistyo Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP...tobat2 dech To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogro

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ini hari retailer mau bagi2 barang murah..

2008-06-26 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Investor akan mengamati perkembangan Q2 untuk verifikasi dampak BBM dan inflasi, Q3 untuk konfirmasi pertumbuhan sektor industri di Indonesia. So far, should be good :) Salam, --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Saham Oke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Saham Oke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BOLA 1 - 0 UTK TBUMI

2008-06-26 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Is it sell low, buy lower? --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Prasetyo, Hani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Prasetyo, Hani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BOLA 1 - 0 UTK TBUMI To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 2:37 AM Sipp pak TBUMI…

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY BUMI BUY ISAT hihihihi

2008-06-26 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
If retailers keep digebukin, how would you raise their buying-appetide later :) --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY BUMI BUY ISAT hihihihi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 27,

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update

2008-06-30 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
If I am not wrong, oil-price (naturally) is lower before summer and going-up again before fall, in line with seasonal demand. It is a seesaw cycle (like Indonesian inflation). Speculations, geopolitics etc are factors affecting that natural cycle. Should we worry if the trend is breaking such

Re: [obrolan-bandar] sgro

2008-06-30 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Sabar Pak, sepertinya sedang membentuk ascending triangle sebelum break (ngarep.com) seperti Desember kemaren :) FA, sedang siapkan rencana akuisisi kebon dan sindikasi pembiayaan. --- On Tue, 7/1/08, swan silo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: swan silo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-b

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SULI akan akuisisi SGRO

2008-06-30 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
wah, ndak mungkin deh ... kutub nya beda :) SULI, sedang konsolidasi menata pengembangan bisnis SGRO, sedang konsolidasi untuk ekspansi --- On Tue, 7/1/08, john987643 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: john987643 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SULI akan akuisisi SGRO To: obrolan-b

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMONG KOSONG CRASH!!!

2008-07-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Saat prediksi tsb dibuat: apakah asumsi oil.price break $140, akan $170 telah dimasukan? Tingginya harga energi akan mengarahkan industri untuk slow-down, adjusting to the economics aiming at survival or growth. SM turbulence would do no good in that situation. Prediction is also subject to adj

Re: [obrolan-bandar]

2008-07-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
FR Q2 will show the progress, Q3 will confirm the growth. Buy, when they are still worthy :) --- On Wed, 7/2/08, andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:28 AM

Re: [obrolan-bandar] enrg ada apa ya??

2008-07-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Touch down, next 850? Oil.price tinggi gini :) --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Thomas Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Thomas Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] enrg ada apa ya?? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 3:48 AM enrg ada apa y

Re: [obrolan-bandar] enrg ada apa ya??

2008-07-01 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
i bawah 1000??   bener ngga?? Thank You!   ThomaS FredericK --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] enrg ada apa ya?? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:53 PM

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - 800 ?

2008-07-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Pada TP, collect di bawah :) 7150, 6700 where to go today? --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - 800 ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 2:51 AM Wew Send instant

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Minyak Naik, Batubara Masa Turun?

2008-07-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Beritanya, pada masuk ke option coal bullish. Buyer Asia ditawari kontrak $220, pada nolak ... down to$200, for now. Coal stocks, koreksi sehat. Bullish for long :) --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Juragan Cumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Juragan Cumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Miny

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sampai detik ini belom ada perlawanan.. mulai reda?

2008-07-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Sampai detik ini belom ada perlawanan.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 4:09 AM Sampai dengan jam 11.09 belom ada perlawanan untuk indeks kita d

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IDX : Support 2275, 2250

2008-07-02 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Metal, EL said samoething days before Coal, last night correction in US, days before in Europe --- On Thu, 7/3/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IDX : Support 2275, 2250 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday,

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ARTI: Mainan Baru Di Sektor Energi

2008-07-06 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
  ARTI akan RI untuk akuisisi Lekom Maras (pengelola Abab, Raja, Dewa), action nya persis BRPT, kemungkinan besar ARTI sebagai holding karena akuisisi berikut sepertinya akan melalui anak perusahaan, cmiiw :)   --- On Sat, 7/5/08, ARRAY27 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: ARRAY27 <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SGRO

2008-07-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
personally, mid-term 3275~3475 sepertinya ok --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Bat Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Bat Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SGRO To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:44 AM Mohon pencerahannya SGRO sudah boleh dikoleksi be

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mr Dean saya mau nanya nich...

2008-07-07 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
    Iseng amati IHSG thn 2004, agak sedikit maksa ... mirip saat ini? Kira2 faktor penggerak (harga, volume) di bulan Juli (lalu September) 2004 itu apa ya? Personally (newbie nich), konsolidasi dan konfirmasi kinerja makro, sektor industri yang bisa jadi harapan untuk membuat momentum :)   Salam

Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] SELAMAT BAGI YG MASI PEGANG SAHAM, NANTI MALAM BISA TIDUR SEPERTI BAYI

2008-07-08 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Oil demand (growth, price etc) is related with economics growth rate. In China case, the consumption (of oil) was double in 15 years (10% economic growth era), and predicted will double in coming 15 years after with steady economic growth rate. No oil bubble, economics will count in the factor

Re: [obrolan-bandar] KECEWA !

2008-07-09 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Lepas ADRO pada buy BUMI di low, terus BUMI meroket Pak :) --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Bumi T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Bumi T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] KECEWA ! To: "obrolan bandar" Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 3:09 AM Penurunan saham batubara disaat harga miny

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau. TODAY.

2008-07-10 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Lagi buat cendol Bu Elaine?

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau. TODAY. -> artinya Merah Tua

2008-07-10 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
12:11 AM MELETUS BALON HIJAU  DU Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Lagi buat cendol Bu Elaine?   No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://w

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Koreksi Harga PGAS Hanya Sementara

2008-07-10 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
hanya nambahin :) revenue pgas berbanding lurus dengan volume gas yang lewat jaringan pipa. peningkatan jumlah produksi di mulut pipa dan peningkatan kebutuhan di ujung pipa yang lain, good news untuk pgas (setelah pipanya jadi lho)  :) --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fr

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana kumis nya

2008-07-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Bu Elaine yang cukurin yaaa :) --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana kumis nya To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 8:02 AM 'Tuh, Mbak EL -

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana kumis nya

2008-07-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Banking, property and related will rise. But, how about 13 Trillion Adaro on 16 July? I sense it will trigger something (IDX) up, still important commodities :) --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mana

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI

2008-07-11 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Sering turun untuk break new high, lalu sudah dekat2 musim kwartalan :) cmiiw, abis kalo market crash ndak pusing langsung nunggang BUMI bs sampai di puncak duluan :) --- On Fri, 7/11/08, exindo_trade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: exindo_trade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar]

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: YPAS - > Ada apa ya?? Anyone can explain (Pak Oentoeng, etc)

2008-07-14 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
TRxL? PDxS? --- On Mon, 7/14/08, tony hm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: tony hm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: YPAS - > Ada apa ya?? Anyone can explain (Pak Oentoeng, etc) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 8:03 AM saham apa tuh pa

RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG 2216

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
waduh, cendol eh ijo nya Bu Elaine buruan nih, 2100 selangkah lagi #o# --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Prasetyo, Hani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Prasetyo, Hani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG 2216 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 7:20 AM

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Bandar mau bikin pyramid?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
where to go? --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Bandar mau bikin pyramid? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 7:53 AM IHSG gagal menembus resista

RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI Dapet Herald

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Dana internal, jual stock dikelola, pinjaman bank kalau tidak salah ada payment date ke Herald share-holder, cmiiw --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Prasetyo, Hani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Prasetyo, Hani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI Dapet Herald To: obrolan-bandar@yah

RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI Dapet Herald

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Sebagian standby loan sudah digunakan untuk collect share di market, sebagian BUMI batalkan beralih ke internal cash/ saham kelolaan ($100jt), terakhir sempat dengar begitu --- On Tue, 7/15/08, rudd haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: rudd haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [obrolan-ban

Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenalan dengan IHSG?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Roller coaster IDX mudah2an masih jalan, so masih optimis potensi gain double this year. Kalau tidak sesuai harapan, I'll take the great lessons this year :) --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenala

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELSA potensi gap up.

2008-07-16 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Target 2009 juga sudah mulai tecapai :) TRIM: ELSA meraih proyek pengadaan rig (anjungan pengeboran migas) tipe modular senilai US$47jt atau setara Rp432,4m. Pengerjaan proyek ini akan dimulai pada Februari 2009. Perseroan telah memesan modular rig dengan nilai US$24jt dan telah membayarkan u

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELSA potensi gap up.

2008-07-16 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
Target 2009 juga sudah mulai tecapai :) TRIM: ELSA meraih proyek pengadaan rig (anjungan pengeboran migas) tipe modular senilai US$47jt atau setara Rp432,4m. Pengerjaan proyek ini akan dimulai pada Februari 2009. Perseroan telah memesan modular rig dengan nilai US$24jt dan telah membayarkan u

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELSA potensi gap up.

2008-07-16 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
..jual rumah mertua/tetangga/teteh.. nihh buat beli ELSA...hehehehe:-=) --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Kabu Nusi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELSA potensi gap up. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berharap DOW -200 malam ini

2008-07-16 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
investor, trader kan juga tidak bisa prediksi market ... so mereka antisipasi dan siapkan strategi juga untuk proteksi investasi mereka. market ke utara atau selatan (expected or unexpected), masing2 jaga2 degan scenario masing2 :) IDX, not bad lah ... let's see FR Q2 :) --- On Thu, 7/17/08,

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