Re: [ob] IHSG Update : 10:41 PM

2010-02-04 Terurut Topik jacob oen
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Re: [ob] IHSG Update : 10:41 PM

2010-02-04 Terurut Topik tommy_yap99
Tq bos , sangat menbantu Amankan capital Powered by www.batu-mulia.com BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Data Saham Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:10:59 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : 10:41 PM per  11.08 Asing NET SELL Rp 472 miliarbe carefull guys jika Capital Outflow

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : 10:41 PM

2010-02-04 Terurut Topik Data Saham
per  11.08 Asing NET SELL Rp 472 miliarbe carefull guys jika Capital Outflow berlanjut..            

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2010-01-24 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
oh ia pak... memang salah ketik bukan 2684 tetapi 2584... mohon maaf... terima kasih pak Hans 2010/1/25 JoLind > > > Koq berubah pak dgn yang kemarin? Apa sy yg salah? Thx… > > > -- > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2010-01-24 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
Hallo pak... sama pak... cumana S1 nya tidak di tampilkan S1 2625 S2 2584 S3 2550 S4 2520 terima kasih Hans Jadwal Pelatihan Sabtu – Minggu, 23 – 24 Januari 2010, jam 09.00 – 17.00 *Analisa Teknikal (Klasik & Modern TA)* Angelo M, Hans, JSX Trader (JT) Sabtu – Minggu, 30 – 31 Januari 201

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2010-01-24 Terurut Topik Desmond Wira
S2-nya salah ketik ya Pak Kemarin IHSG test S2 2584... di tembus sampai 2580 Hari ini formasi pertahanan IHSG masih di S2 2584 S3 2550 S4 2520 Benar begitu ya Pak Salam DW From: Hans Kwee To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; Metastock Id Groups ; Obrolan Bandar G

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2010-01-24 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
Hallo pak gak pak tetap sama... S1 sampai S3 nya... hanya tambah S4 aja... hanya pertahanan pindah dari S2 ke S3 aja... dgn toleransi sampai S4... Strategi yang di tulis kemarin masih tetap sama... terima kasih Hans Jadwal Pelatihan Sabtu – Minggu, 23 – 24 Januari 2010, jam 09.00 – 17.00 *An

RE: [ob] IHSG update

2010-01-24 Terurut Topik JoLind
Koq berubah pak dgn yang kemarin? Apa sy yg salah? Thx. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:50 AM To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; Metastock Id Groups; Obrolan Bandar Groups; seputar IDX ya

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-12-28 Terurut Topik Hadiah 2000
Thanks pak Hans On 29/12/2009, Hans Kwee wrote: > ia betul juga ya maaf saya tadi kelupaaan kasih support levelnya > > support ada di 2491, 2480 dan 2469... > > terima kasih > Hans > > > 2009/12/29 Gendut3899 > >> >> >> Pak, sepertinya yakin sekali akan naik index di hari ini. >> Yang diinfo

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-11-29 Terurut Topik dholiaq
mbah link nya gak bisa nih pesannya "404 not found" On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM, jsx_consultant < jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote: > > > IHSG Update > > Wave 4 has 60% probability to terminate in the > range of Fibo 38% and Fibo 50% > > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwjkse5.png > >

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-11-29 Terurut Topik I_R_G_7_I
Page Error Mbah On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM, jsx_consultant < jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote: > > > IHSG Update > > Wave 4 has 60% probability to terminate in the > range of Fibo 38% and Fibo 50% > > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwjkse5.png > > >

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-11-29 Terurut Topik fifi young
kok ga bisa dibuka, Mbah? On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM, jsx_consultant < jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote: > > > IHSG Update > > Wave 4 has 60% probability to terminate in the > range of Fibo 38% and Fibo 50% > > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwjkse5.png > > >

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-11-25 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
Hallo pak Buku ver bahasa indonesia belum ada pak. kalau yang inggris link nya kemarin banyak beredar di OB. terima kasih Hans 2009/11/26 Robin Tanaman > > > Pak, mau nanya dong.. Ada ga buku tentang Alligator Indicator versi bahasa > indo? kalo versi inggrisnya? > > -

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-11-25 Terurut Topik Robin Tanaman
Pak, mau nanya dong.. Ada ga buku tentang Alligator Indicator versi bahasa indo? kalo versi inggrisnya? From: Hans Kwee To: Obrolan Bandar Groups ; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; Metastock Id Groups Sent: Thu, November 26, 2009 8:40:24 AM Subject: [ob] IHSG Updat

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik conx_2003
gt; > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Halim Perdana > > Sent: 12 Oktober 2009 10:14 > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG u

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
t..., hehehe... ..., IHSG ngga lagi sideways, tapi >>> lagi uptrend !! liatnya jgn pake intraday, pake daily dong.., hehe >>> >>> >>> >>> JT >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoog

RE: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik noto prawiro
iya prof lagi up trend tp penggaris goceng dari low tanggal 23/06 dan low 13/07 di 2367 lagi di coba di prof.  mohon pencerahannya prof --- On Mon, 12/10/09, JT wrote: From: JT Subject: RE: [ob] IHSG update To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 10:45 AM

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik B_ND
om:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: >> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Halim Perdana >> *Sent:* 12 Oktober 2009 10:14 >> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [ob] IHSG update >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sepertinya IHSG sideways cenderung tertekan sampai pengumuman kabinet. >> > > > >

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik charles_3983
, tapi lagi uptrend > !! liatnya jgn pake intraday, pake daily dong.., hehe > > > > JT > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Halim Perdana > Sent: 12 Oktober 2009 10:14 > To: obrolan

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik iching_prediction
e intraday, pake daily dong.., hehe > > > > JT > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Halim Perdana > Sent: 12 Oktober 2009 10:14 > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [ob] IHS

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
tapi > lagi uptrend !! liatnya jgn pake intraday, pake daily dong.., hehe > > > > JT > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Halim Perdana > *Sent:* 12 Oktober 2009 10:14 > *To:* obrolan-bandar@ya

RE: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik JT
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Halim Perdana Sent: 12 Oktober 2009 10:14 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG update Sepertinya IHSG sideways cenderung tertekan sampai pengumuman kabinet. _ From: "highwaysta...@gmail.com" To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
.com" > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Mon, October 12, 2009 9:23:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [ob] IHSG update > > > > Ok pak, tku. Semoga bisa kesampaian. > > Sent from my computer of course! > -- > *From: * Hans Kwee > *D

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik Halim Perdana
Sepertinya IHSG sideways cenderung tertekan sampai pengumuman kabinet. From: "highwaysta...@gmail.com" To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 9:23:30 AM Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG update Ok pak, tku. Semoga bisa kesampaian.

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik highwaystar91
Ok pak, tku. Semoga bisa kesampaian. Sent from my computer of course! -Original Message- From: Hans Kwee Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:18:34 To: ; Saham Groups; Milis AATI Groups; Metastock Id Groups; ; Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG update maksud saya dalam beberapa waktu kedepan... tetapi

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
maksud saya dalam beberapa waktu kedepan... tetapi setiap kenaikan kan harus dimuali dari satu langkah.. dan harapannya di mulai dari hari ini bila bisa tutup dua level itu.bila gagal saya perkirakan akan ada koreksi lebih dalam dulu sebelum mampu naik terima kasih pak untuk koreksinya thx Hans

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik Rei
*Hari ini ihsg harusnya mampu naik mengerjar impian 2640. Level yang perlu di tutup adalah penurunanan di 2477 dan 2525...* *Hari ini pak? Bisa gitu? Mesti +6.5% lho... * 2009/10/12 Hans Kwee > > > Beberapa bulan terakhir ini saya memakai 2 pendekatan dalam analisa, > terutama untuk index. Pendek

BLS: Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik eliasefendi
Tunggu Bumi di 2875 ahmana tau ad yg ngasih..DEWA masih berwujud dewa tidur.kebanyakan tidur susah bangunnya Terkirim dari telepon Nokia saya -Pesan Asli- Dari: jkunci Terkirim: 05/10/2009 09:06:48 Subjek: Re: Bls: [ob] IHSG Update Pagi2 pak Hans udah ngelawak, yg baca ser

RE: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Bozz Traders
Siapa tahu kalau bisa R5 sampai nanti tutup karena HIS juga naik 2.5% _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jku...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:27 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik jkunci
Mudah2an bisa tutup di R4 2449.157 pak Hans. Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hans Kwee Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:21:57 To: ; ; ; ; ; Subject: [ob] IHSG update Kenaikan IHSG sudah memasuki area R3 Intraday R1 2415.54 R2 2428.389 R3 2438.773 R4 2449.

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Joe Martin
Lagi tidur kali... Jam 3 pagi masih bales email tuh... *lagi mimpi indah sampe ngiler... Pi EL... -Original Message- From: "Prasetyo, Hani" Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:59:18 To: Subject: RE: [ob] IHSG update El mau masuk kalo 2200 katenye... ane sih diatas itu deedikit

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
> El mana ya? > > > -- > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Hans Kwee > *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2009 3:36 PM > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [ob] IHSG update

RE: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG update hehe.. S7 di level berapa pak... jangan nawar kerendahan... tar gak diajak main ama bd lo... hehe canda... thx Hans On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Prasetyo, Hani mailto:hani.prase...@sc.com> > wrote: EL nangkring di S7... butuh temen

Re: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Hans Kwee
hehe.. S7 di level berapa pak... jangan nawar kerendahan... tar gak diajak main ama bd lo... hehe canda... thx Hans On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Prasetyo, Hani wrote: > > > EL nangkring di S7… butuh temen ga El? > > > -- > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.co

RE: [ob] IHSG update

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
EL nangkring di S7... butuh temen ga El? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:18 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com; metastock...@yahoogr

Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik tasrul70
Yup, sambil lihat sikon besok. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Sebastian Saham Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:05:53 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya pak Tasrul BBRI nya mo.. TP jg sebagian BBRI nya hari ini

Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Sebastian Saham
pak Tasrul BBRI nya mo.. TP jg sebagian BBRI nya hari ini?? From: "tasru...@yahoo.com" To: Obrolan Bandar Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:55:18 PM Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya Sebaiknya take profit dulu sebagia

Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Iwan
As per 15:04:19 udah 2270.247 tuh oom. SOL -Original Message- From: tasru...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:55:18 To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya Sebaiknya take profit dulu sebagian,hari ini dan besok akan diuji. Powered by Telkomsel

Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik tasrul70
Sebaiknya take profit dulu sebagian,hari ini dan besok akan diuji. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: T Halim Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:50:57 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya Pak, gemes bener tuh 2268 tadi udah dekat bener ya

Re: [ob] IHSG Update, udh dekat 2269 ~ 2270 nya

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik T Halim
Pak, gemes bener tuh 2268 tadi udah dekat bener ya.. emang strong resist . Biar gak kejebak, saya kasih peta aja ya , intinya kalau IHSG mau lanjut minggu depan, harus bisa tembus 2,269.59 dalam minggu ini. Tasrul

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : tunggu trigger di 2,033.68

2009-06-17 Terurut Topik tasrul70
Kalau udah ikut,bisa nyari sendiri he he kalau dikasih tahu disini ketahuan ama BD.BTW hari ini lumayanlah bolak balik di BTEL. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Yadi FTJ Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:20:06 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : tunggu trigger di

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : tunggu trigger di 2,033.68

2009-06-17 Terurut Topik Yadi FTJ
Bener itu, ikut workshop dulu, baru tau ya Pak Tasrul... hee hee hee --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Suryantono wrote: From: Suryantono Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : tunggu trigger di 2,033.68 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 3:13 PM Ikut workshopnya baru

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : tunggu trigger di 2,033.68

2009-06-17 Terurut Topik Suryantono
Ikut workshopnya baru dikasih tahu, hehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lucia Fransis wrote: > > Pak Tasrul, >   > Apanya yang disikat kanan ? BG or BC ? Thanks > > --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Tasrul wrote: > > > From: Tasrul > Subject: [ob] IHSG Update : tunggu trigger di 2,033.68 > To: m

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : Buying Opportunity

2009-06-15 Terurut Topik gdbrook
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Re: [ob] IHSG Update : Buying Opportunity

2009-06-15 Terurut Topik Rei
Arah masih down semua ya pak Tasrul? 2009/6/16 Tasrul Tanar > > > > Semoga membantu.. > > >

RE: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati

2009-06-11 Terurut Topik Bambang Putra
Muantp Pak tasrul Kalo turun ikutan nyopet ahNyicil buat invest.!!!he2... Thx Pak Tasrul... Best rgrd's; B.P -Original Message- From: Tasrul Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 2:15 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati Ya,

RE: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati

2009-06-11 Terurut Topik Tasrul
PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati bearish gimana? rasionalis kali.. tuh katanya mau naik mau turun ok aja hehehe, yg penting cuan terus ya pak tasrul. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Tasrul mailto:tas...@overseas.co.id> >

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati

2009-06-11 Terurut Topik Vernichtung
> > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Yudizz > *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:18 PM > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati > > > > > > > >

RE: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati

2009-06-10 Terurut Topik Tasrul
Cuma ngasih gambaran aja, naik turun gak masalah…naik ok turun ok From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yudizz Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:18 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] IHSG

RE: [ob] IHSG Update : Hati-Hati

2009-06-10 Terurut Topik Yudizz
Cihuuyyy, Pak Tasrul sekarang bearish nih. Hahaha... ☺ Regards, Yudizz Powered by BEI Berbullish™ May The BULL Be With You From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:4

Re: [ob] IHSG Update

2009-06-05 Terurut Topik Ricky Wakiman
Lha penguatan itu kan ada sebabnya. Salah satunya ya inflow ini. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Thomas Frederick Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:58:20 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update pak IDR 9960 semakin siang semakin kuat. Ini memang

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik riwi_s
Ngomong-2 dulu kuliah di mana ? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: "JsxTrader™" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:28:38 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized Haha.., jadi inget masa2 kuliah.. ahh, I missed that moment..

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
Haha.., jadi inget masa2 kuliah.. ahh, I missed that moment.. Powered by TLKM BullBerry® -Original Message- From: Tasrul Tanar Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:09:25 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized Yup, sama spt saya juga dulu sampai ngulang juga ha ha, abis dosennya gak

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Tasrul Tanar
ta-kita pada ngulang semua...apesapes... From: JsxTrader™ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:51:58 PM Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized Terus terang saya sangat terkagum-kagum dgn akurasi quick count.., in

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
-Original Message- From: Tasrul Tanar Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:35:41 To: Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized He he..spt kata Pak JT dan kita juga sepakat bahwa membuat suatu ulasan teknikal atau bikin suatu perkiraaan support resistance itu sebenarnya mudah, yang susah itu adalah

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Tasrul Tanar
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:55:51 PM Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized Saya lagi nonton quick count di metro, jadi inget Pak Tasrul.. Statistik banget gitu loh... He Powered by TLKM BullBerry® From: Tasrul

Re: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
Saya lagi nonton quick count di metro, jadi inget Pak Tasrul.. Statistik banget gitu loh... He Powered by TLKM BullBerry® -Original Message- From: Tasrul Tanar Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:03:34 To: ; ; ; Subject: [ob] IHSG Update : EMA Optimized EMA Big Picture (IHSG_EMA_BP) : semog