[OAUTH-WG] Shepherd Write-Ups for OAuth Assertion Framework and SAML Assertion Profile

2014-02-06 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Barry,    here is a new attempt to get the OAuth assertion drafts finalized. The authors have updated the drafts during the last year (after they returned from the IESG back to the working group). My shepherd write-ups can be found here:    The shepherd write-ups can be found here:https://git

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Phil Hunt
Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On 2014-02-05, at 6:08 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > Thanks for your comments, Phil. I'm working on addressing them at present. > > One comment confuses me. You wrote "Section 4.1 - It would be good to have > an example with a softwa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Phil Hunt
My thought was the original statement shouldn't be returned because the server would return the "processed" information. IOW reflecting what it took from the certificate vs. from the registration request. If you just echo back the certificate you aren't necessarily reflecting the final state o

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread John Bradley
I think it would be echoing back the software statement that was processed as part of the request for consistency. Replying with a different software statement is going to be too confusing. The entirety of the reply represents the configured state for the client. John B. On Feb 6, 2014, a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Anthony Nadalin
I would agree with Phil, the server makes right in this case, specific statement may be sent but the processed statement is returned which may be different -Original Message- From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:39 AM T

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Phil Hunt
Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On 2014-02-06, at 10:38 AM, John Bradley wrote: > I think it would be echoing back the software statement that was processed > as part of the request for consistency. FWIW -- I don't really think anything should be returned o

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Mike Jones
I'd actually already noticed that the term "software assertion" was present in some of the text that I inherited and replaced it with "software statement". :-) -Original Message- From: Phil Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 10:28 AM To: Mike Jones Cc: E

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread John Bradley
Telling the client the state of it's configuration is useful to the client if the server "makes right". I think Tony is arguing for the server putting the entire response into the software statement element in the response. Where at the moment the spec provides those elements at the top level

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Mike Jones
I just spoke to Tony about this in person and to Phil about it on the phone. We're all good with having the server return the actual values used in the registration (which is what the spec already does). -- Mike -Original Message- From: John Bradley [mai

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread John Bradley
OK On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > I just spoke to Tony about this in person and to Phil about it on the phone. > We're all good with having the server return the actual values used in the > registration (which is what the spec already does). > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Phil Hunt
Yes. Mike and I did agree on this. To confirm I have understood it,I thought I would send this so that we have a record of why we went with returning the statement (cause I know I'll forget in the future) :-) I was concerned that returning the software statement (which was an input value) d

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread Mike Jones
Yes -Original Message- From: Phil Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:55 AM To: Mike Jones Cc: John Bradley; oauth@ietf.org list Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed! Yes. Mike and I did agree on this. To confirm

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Registration Plan: Your Feedback Needed!

2014-02-06 Thread John Bradley
Yes that is what I confirmed with Mike. On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Phil Hunt wrote: > Yes. Mike and I did agree on this. > > To confirm I have understood it,I thought I would send this so that we have a > record of why we went with returning the statement (cause I know I'll forget > in