Re: [OAUTH-WG] Initial Client Credential - Dynamic Registration

2013-05-24 Thread Phil Hunt
The use cases I have heard of from Justin and Morteza at IIW are based on federated scenarios. These are not just locally asserted tokens. Your assertion that the tokens are local and my assertion they are federated suggests there are things that must be sorted out/understood. I'm merely implyi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Initial Client Credential - Dynamic Registration

2013-05-24 Thread John Bradley
Phil, The OAuth token used authorize access to the registration endpoint( if one is required) would be issued by the registration server via some method eg cut and paste from a developer portal, email or perhaps via OAuth to a Developer API management application. That is declared out of sc

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Initial Client Credential - Dynamic Registration

2013-05-24 Thread Nat Sakimura
=nat via iPhone May 25, 2013 7:16、Phil Hunt wrote: On 2013-05-24, at 2:54 PM, John Bradley wrote: I agree with Justin. If you want tight authentication on the AS that issues the tokens we can use OAuth for that with short lived tokens granted based on a SAML SSO , PIV card or whatever float

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Initial Client Credential - Dynamic Registration

2013-05-24 Thread Phil Hunt
Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On 2013-05-24, at 2:54 PM, John Bradley wrote: > I agree with Justin. > > If you want tight authentication on the AS that issues the tokens we can use > OAuth for that with short lived tokens granted based on a SAML SSO , PIV c

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Initial Client Credential - Dynamic Registration

2013-05-24 Thread John Bradley
I agree with Justin. If you want tight authentication on the AS that issues the tokens we can use OAuth for that with short lived tokens granted based on a SAML SSO , PIV card or whatever floats your boat for authentication. How the tokens are issued to the OAuth client doing the registration (n

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Initial Client Credential - Dynamic Registration

2013-05-24 Thread Richer, Justin P.
I completely disagree with this assessment. The latest draft (which was just posted) has new language describing what this token is and what it's for, and I hope that will clear things up. But even so, let me try to address your concerns in-line. On May 24, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Phil Hunt mailto:p