Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-08-07 Thread Justin Richer
Thanks for the explanation, Brian. I think the draft’s current structure helped me to erroneously conflate the two aspects of the document — in that it sounded like mTLS client authentication was required for an mTLS-bound (or really, certificate-bound) token. I see now that this isn’t the case,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-08-03 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi Justin, thanks for reviewing the draft. > Am 01.08.2017 um 21:57 schrieb Brian Campbell : > > Thanks Justin. > > In my original announcement email, I should have given credit to Torsten as > he made many of the updates in -03. So complements on improvements as well as > blame for issues

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-08-02 Thread Brian Campbell
A fair suggestion and we'll see what can be done to make the distinction more clear. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:02 AM, Vladimir Dzhuvinov wrote: > In terms of structure, I would like to suggest giving PKI bound auth and > pub key bound mTLS auth their own sections, instead of having them in > one

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-08-02 Thread Vladimir Dzhuvinov
In terms of structure, I would like to suggest giving PKI bound auth and pub key bound mTLS auth their own sections, instead of having them in one section (2.1 as it is now). The two methods are distinctive enough, and implementers should easily recognise they can implement just one of them. Vlad

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-08-01 Thread John Bradley
I agree with Brian on the points about the difference between validating the certificate at the AS for client authentication and the RS. This was defiantly intentional. Lets face it people do a crap job of validating certificates in general. While browsers validating TLS certificates is no

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-08-01 Thread Brian Campbell
Thanks Justin. In my original announcement email, I should have given credit to Torsten as he made many of the updates in -03. So complements on improvements as well as blame for issues can be pointed to him as well! Your point about document structure is taken and we will look to make the separa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action: draft-ietf-oauth-mtls-03.txt

2017-07-31 Thread Justin Richer
Brian, thanks for the update. This is really coming along! I think the spec would benefit from a more clear separation of the client authentication and resource access sections. They’re really almost two different but related specs, but there’s enough overlap that I think that keeping them in t