Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
As long as: - You can provide a URI identifier for the assertion format you are going to use, and - The authorization server can do something useful with the assertion provided and decide if it should grant an access token Then sure, you can use the assertion flow for utilizing any other trust

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-07 Thread Dick Hardt
off again. > > /thomas/ > > __ > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:10 PM >> To: Thomas Hardjono >> Cc: oauth@ietf.org >> Subject:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-07 Thread Thomas Hardjono
Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:10 PM > To: Thomas Hardjono > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping > > I hope so. > > On 2010-06-06, at 3:22 PM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > > > Apologies for

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-07 Thread Dick Hardt
; > /thomas/ > > __ > >> -Original Message- >> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> Dick Hardt >> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:59 PM >> To: Luke Shepard >> Cc: oauth@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [OAUT

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-07 Thread Thomas Hardjono
tf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Dick Hardt > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:59 PM > To: Luke Shepard > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping > > because we use it > > On 2010-06-04, at 6:40 PM, Luke Shepard wr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-04 Thread Dick Hardt
because we use it On 2010-06-04, at 6:40 PM, Luke Shepard wrote: > Why? > > On Jun 4, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Patrick Harding wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Brian Campbell >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Peter Saint-Andre >>> wrote

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-04 Thread Luke Shepard
Why? On Jun 4, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Patrick Harding wrote: > +1 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Brian Campbell > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Peter Saint-Andre >> wrote: >>> >>> At least for the assertion flow, that's definitely true. At the >>> int

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-04 Thread Patrick Harding
+1 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: At least for the assertion flow, that's definitely true. At the interim meeting we had some discussion about perhaps pulling the assertion flow out of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-04 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
+1 Am 04.06.2010 23:38, schrieb Brian Campbell: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: At least for the assertion flow, that's definitely true. At the interim meeting we had some discussion about perhaps pulling the assertion flow out of the base spec and into a separate

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-04 Thread Brian Campbell
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > At least for the assertion flow, that's definitely true. At the interim > meeting we had some discussion about perhaps pulling the assertion flow > out of the base spec and into a separate document. Perhaps that's the > best way to proce

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-03 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-06-03, at 8:20 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 6/3/10 8:54 AM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > >> PS. Compared to the details of RFC4120 and even >> to the old ISAKMP in the IETF, the current >> OAuth2.0 draft-05 spec appear to be a high-level framework >> that needs to be instantiated/profil

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-03 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-06-03, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > Dick, Brian, > > Thanks for the clarification. > > - Is the Assertion Flow designed only for the STS, > or can it be used with other "identity providers" (non-WSS). It can be used with any tokens. I use the STS term to clarify the design pat

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-03 Thread Paul Madsen
high-level framework that needs to be instantiated/profiled. /thomas/ __ -From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] -Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:51 AM To: Brian Campbell Cc: Thomas Hardjono; oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and toke

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-03 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 6/3/10 8:54 AM, Thomas Hardjono wrote: > PS. Compared to the details of RFC4120 and even > to the old ISAKMP in the IETF, the current > OAuth2.0 draft-05 spec appear to be a high-level framework > that needs to be instantiated/profiled. At least for the assertion flow, that's definitely true.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-03 Thread Thomas Hardjono
03, 2010 1:51 AM To: Brian Campbell Cc: Thomas Hardjono; oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping The Assertion Flow is for the AS to act as an STS where one token is exchanged for another. This allows the PR to not have to worry about different kinds of tokens and to o

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-03 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
If I understand you correct, then you could utilize the assertion flow as follows: Put the generic token into the assertion parameter, set the scopes parameter to the scope(s) of the service your client wants to interact with and use the client credentials as described. If the AS supports suc

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-02 Thread Dick Hardt
The Assertion Flow is for the AS to act as an STS where one token is exchanged for another. This allows the PR to not have to worry about different kinds of tokens and to only deal with tokens issued by an AS. Lisa: a real world example of your use case would make it easier for how you got to the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-02 Thread Brian Campbell
I'm still a newbie here so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Assertion Flow was intentionally left generic to serve as an extension point for profiling more specific types of assertions/tokens being exchanged for OAuth Access Tokens (or allowing for proprietary usage). The

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow and token bootstrapping

2010-06-02 Thread Thomas Hardjono
Lisa, I'm also looking at the assertion flow right now and wondering if I could use it to "swap" a Kerberos service-ticket for an OAuth Access-Token. In particular, I would like to: (1) Wrap the KRB AP_REQ message within a SAML-assertion (eg. using the existing WSS Token Profile standard), (2