Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-28 Thread Brian Campbell
ge Fletcher > *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2019 10:05 AM > *To:* Brian Campbell > *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org; Vittorio Bertocci > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for > draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 > > > > +1 > > I came to a similar conclusion over the w

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-28 Thread Mike Jones
, January 28, 2019 10:05 AM To: Brian Campbell Cc: oauth@ietf.org; Vittorio Bertocci Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 +1 I came to a similar conclusion over the weekend. If https://api.example.com/mail is an allowed location URI, how is it

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-28 Thread Brian Campbell
>> -- Mike >> >> >> >> *From:* Rifaat Shekh-Yusef >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 12:46 PM >> *To:* George Fletcher >> *Cc:* Vittorio Bertocci ; Mike Jones < >> michael.jo...@mic

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-24 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
, January 24, 2019 12:46 PM > *To:* George Fletcher > *Cc:* Vittorio Bertocci ; Mike Jones < > michael.jo...@microsoft.com>; oauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for > draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 > > > > All, > > > > This comi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-24 Thread Mike Jones
: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 12:46 PM To: George Fletcher Cc: Vittorio Bertocci ; Mike Jones ; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 All, This coming Monday, Jan 28 @ 12:00pm Eastern Time, we have a scheduled

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-23 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
> > *From:* OAuth *On Behalf Of * John Bradley > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:56 AM > *To:* oauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for > draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 > > > > I don't think they are necessarily mutually ex

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-23 Thread Mike Jones
On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:56 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 I don't think they are necessarily mutually exclusive, that is why I think there is value in allowing them to be spec

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-23 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
create confusion and ultimately >>>>>> not be as useful to the developer community as it could be. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 12:38 Phil Hunt wrote: >&

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-22 Thread Mike Jones
. -- Mike From: OAuth On Behalf Of Rifaat Shekh-Yusef Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 5:36 PM To: Vittorio Bertocci Cc: Brian Campbell ; IETF oauth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 Thank you guys! On Monday

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-21 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
t;>>>> +1 to Mike and John’s comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Mike Jones >>>>> c...@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-21 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
lt; >>>>> Michael.Jones=40microsoft@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I also agree that “resource” should be a specific network-addressable >>>>> URL whereas a separate audience parameter (like “aud” in JWTs) can refer >>>>&g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-21 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
s.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Note that the ACE WG is proposing to register a logical audience >>>> parameter “req_aud” in >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params-01 - partly >>>> based on feedback from OAuth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-21 Thread John Bradley
logical audience >>> parameter “req_aud” in >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params-01 - partly >>> based on feedback from OAuth WG members. This is a general OAuth >>> parameter, which any OAuth deployment will be able to use. >>> &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-21 Thread Brian Campbell
based on feedback from OAuth WG members. This is a general OAuth >>> parameter, which any OAuth deployment will be able to use. >>> >>> >>> >>> I therefore believe that no changes are needed to >>> draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators, as the lo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-20 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
1 - partly >> based on feedback from OAuth WG members. This is a general OAuth >> parameter, which any OAuth deployment will be able to use. >> >> >> >> I therefore believe that no changes are needed to >> draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators, as the logical audience work is >> already happening in another draft

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-20 Thread John Bradley
dmarc.ietf.org>>; IETF oauth WG mailto:oauth@ietf.org>> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 We need to decide if we want to make a change. For security we are location centric. I prefer to keep resource location s

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-20 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
OAuth *On Behalf Of * John Bradley > *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:01 AM > *To:* Brian Campbell > *Cc:* Vittorio Bertocci ; IETF oauth > WG > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for > draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 > > > > We need to decide

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-19 Thread Phil Hunt
-- Mike > > From: OAuth On Behalf Of John Bradley > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:01 AM > To: Brian Campbell > Cc: Vittorio Bertocci ; IETF oauth WG > > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for > draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 > > We

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-19 Thread Mike Jones
ietf.org>> Date: Friday, January 18, 2019 at 5:47 AM To: John Bradley mailto:ve7...@ve7jtb.com>> Cc: IETF oauth WG mailto:oauth@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 Thanks John for the background. I agree that from the client val

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-19 Thread John Bradley
ing scopes to >>>>> define permissions to the resource. >>>>> >>>>> Fortunately, we are using a different parameter name so not stepping >>>>> on that.. >>>>> >>>>> We could go back and try to add text explaining t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-19 Thread Brian Campbell
>> >>>> We could go back and try to add text explaining the difference, but we >>>> are quite late in the process. >>>> >>>> I agree that a logical resource parameter may be helpful, but perhaps >>>> it should be a separate draft. >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-18 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
t;> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:38 PM Richard Backman, Annabelle < >>> richa...@amazon.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Doesn’t the “scope” parameter already provide a means of specifying a >>>> logical identifier? >>>> >>>> &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-18 Thread Brian Campbell
>>> -- >>> >>> Annabelle Richard Backman >>> >>> AWS Identity >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *OAuth on behalf of Vittorio Bertocci >>> >>> *Date: *Friday, January 18, 2019 at 5:47

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-18 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
;> *From: *OAuth on behalf of Vittorio Bertocci >> >> *Date: *Friday, January 18, 2019 at 5:47 AM >> *To: *John Bradley >> *Cc: *IETF oauth WG >> *Subject: *Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for >> draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 >> >> >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-18 Thread John Bradley
occi > > *Date: *Friday, January 18, 2019 at 5:47 AM > *To: *John Bradley > *Cc: *IETF oauth WG > *Subject: *Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for > draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 > > > > Thanks John for the background. > > I agree that from the client vali

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-18 Thread Richard Backman, Annabelle
write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 Thanks John for the background. I agree that from the client validation PoV, having an identifier corresponding to a location makes things more solid. That said: the use of logical identifiers is widespread, as it has significant practical

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-18 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
Thanks John for the background. I agree that from the client validation PoV, having an identifier corresponding to a location makes things more solid. That said: the use of logical identifiers is widespread, as it has significant practical advantages (think of services that assign generated hosting

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-17 Thread John Bradley
We have discussed this. Audiences can certainly be logical identifiers. This however is a more specific location.  The AS is free to map the location into some abstract audience in the AT. From a security point of view once the client starts asking for logical resources it can be tricked int

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-17 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Hi Vittorio, The text you quoted is copied form the abstract of the draft itself. *Authors,* Should the draft be updated to cover the logical identifier case? Regards, Rifaat On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:19 AM Vittorio Bertocci wrote: > Hi Rifaat, > one detail. The tech summary says > > An e

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-17 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
Hi Rifaat, one detail. The tech summary says An extension to the OAuth 2.0 Authorization Framework defining request parameters that enable a client to explicitly signal to an authorization server about the *location* of the protected resource(s) to which it is requesting access. But at least in t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-16 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Thanks Filip! I will update the write-up accordingly. Regards, Rifaat On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM Filip Skokan wrote: > Hello Rifaat, > > The Auth0 link points to a different implementation. Here are two correct > entries replacing the one you wrote down. > > So > > * Auth0 has an imple

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-16 Thread Filip Skokan
Hello Rifaat, The Auth0 link points to a different implementation. Here are two correct entries replacing the one you wrote down. So * Auth0 has an implementation but with a different parameter name ("audience"): https://auth0.com/docs/api/authentication#authorize-application * Node.JS Open So

[OAUTH-WG] Shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01

2019-01-16 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
All, The following is the first shepherd write-up for the draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators-01 document. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-resource-indicators/shepherdwriteup/ Please, take a look and let me know if I missed anything. Regards, Rifaat __