[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-25 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 12:18:14PM +0200, Filip Skokan wrote: > > > Back to a general "freshness" mechanism. What if we designated an HTTP > Response Header parameter applicable to *any* AS HTTP response that carries > a currently accepted value? A client that regularly communicates with the > AS

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-25 Thread Watson Ladd
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 5:49 AM Denis wrote: > > Hi Christian and Watson, > > Hi Watson, > > > > Sorry for the late response. I would fully agree that challenge would be the > better term here and there is a bit of ambiguity for the term nonce in OAuth > imho. > > +1 Yes, for a nonce sent by th

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-25 Thread Denis
Hi Christian and Watson, Hi Watson, Sorry for the late response. I would fully agree that challenge would be the better term here and there is a bit of ambiguity for the term nonce in OAuth imho. +1  Yes, for a nonce sent by the authorization server, the term "challenge" would be a better

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-24 Thread Christian Bormann
Hi Watson, Sorry for the late response. I would fully agree that challenge would be the better term here and there is a bit of ambiguity for the term nonce in OAuth imho. While a nonce generally speaking would usually mean a random input, in the context of OAuth, it is afaik interpreted as an

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-17 Thread Paul Bastian
Hi Filip, answers are inline: On 4/11/25 12:18, Filip Skokan wrote: Hello Christian, I've deployed the following optimization for DPoP on the AS in the past that we may get inspired by. Given the DPoP "nonce" mechanism, much like what we're talking about in the attestation based client auth

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-17 Thread Filip Skokan
Hello Paul, For now, we haven't heard any blockers to the proposed solution using HTTP > OPTIONS and no better solutions were proposed either. I've mentioned in the meeting that using OPTIONS on endpoints which already have CORS handlers is problematic because their OPTIONS HTTP method handling

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-11 Thread Filip Skokan
(Note that when endpoint responses are being cached of course a challenge cannot be indicated in its headers, but we'd still have the "do the request without credentials" when you don't have a value to use option available as well as being able to indicate the current challenge in all other non-cac

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-11 Thread Filip Skokan
Hello Christian, I've deployed the following optimization for DPoP on the AS in the past that we may get inspired by. Given the DPoP "nonce" mechanism, much like what we're talking about in the attestation based client authentication context here, is to ensure freshness and not be a real "number u

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-06 Thread Denis
Since Christian raised an issue on github 5 days ago, I have provided a detailed response at: https://github.com/oauth-wg/draft-ietf-oauth-attestation-based-client-auth/issues/104 I took a quick look at: draft-demarco-oauth-nonce-endpoint-00 *"Nonce*: A random or pseudo-random number th

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-05 Thread Watson Ladd
On Sat, Apr 5, 2025, 8:17 AM Christian Bormann wrote: > Hi All, > > > > We had a discussion about a nonce fetching mechanism for the > Attestation-Based Client Authentication draft at the > > IETF 122 session. Since we didn’t really reach a consensus there, we’d > like to continue the discussion

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-05 Thread Chrisitan Bormann
Bormann Cc: oauth Betreff: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication Giuseppe and Orie have a draft that might be relevant to this discussion, as it describes a dedicated nonce endpoint: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-demarco-oauth-nonce

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Nonce fetching mechanism for Attestation-Based Client Authentication

2025-04-05 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Giuseppe and Orie have a draft that might be relevant to this discussion, as it describes a dedicated nonce endpoint: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-demarco-oauth-nonce-endpoint-00.html Regards, Rifaat On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 11:16 AM Christian Bormann wrote: > Hi All, > > > > We had a