Re: [OAUTH-WG] [kitten] OAuth Discovery and what the relying partyneeds to know

2012-05-11 Thread William Mills
Auth Discovery and what the relying >partyneeds to know > >Hi Justin, > >[not sure why kitten@ is in the Cc.  Feel free to drop] > >At 08:15 10-05-2012, Justin Richer wrote: >> "user@domain" represents a person. SMTP, XMPP, SIP, and other protocols have >&

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [kitten] OAuth Discovery and what the relying partyneeds to know

2012-05-11 Thread SM
Hi Justin, [not sure why kitten@ is in the Cc. Feel free to drop] At 08:15 10-05-2012, Justin Richer wrote: "user@domain" represents a person. SMTP, XMPP, SIP, and other protocols have used this format successfully. OpenID made the mistake of trying to teach people that "http://domain/user";

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [kitten] OAuth Discovery and what the relying partyneeds to know

2012-05-10 Thread John Bradley
Allowing user based discovery is not mutually exclusive with things that provide browser based help for selecting a IdP. Forcing a user to type a email address for twitter may also prove unnatural. More help for the user by their trusted user agent is probably the better way to go in the long

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [kitten] OAuth Discovery and what the relying partyneeds to know

2012-05-10 Thread Justin Richer
It's important to remember that these identifiers need to be handled, seen, and remembered by people. Especially in the long-tail case (which is to say, IdPs who aren't big enough to get a log in button), users will need to enter a piece of text into a website to tell the website who they are.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [kitten] OAuth Discovery and what the relying partyneeds to know

2012-05-10 Thread John Bradley
openID Connect dosen't require a user portion of the identifier to be discovered and supports a opaque or pseudonymous user_id. email is an optional attribute that can be returned by user consent. OpenID 2.0 actively discouraged using email addresses for privacy reasons. Teaching people to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] [kitten] OAuth Discovery and what the relying partyneeds to know

2012-05-09 Thread Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)
Hmmm, I see your point but I think that from a privacy PoV revealing the username to the RP is not good practice, especially not prior to trust being established between RP and IdP. If the IdP wants to send the assertion in the authentication statement that is another matter. But you don't want