Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread John Bradley
May/June of 2010 OpenID Connect and OpenID artifact binding merged to crate a spec based on top of OAuth 2. Aug 2010 there was a ID called "OAuth Dynamic Client Registration Protocol" http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oauth-dyn-reg-v1-00 that included discovery (XRD) published by Eve, Maciej and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
Since it's an information reference, I would like to reference the as-of-now-current ID for UMA: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hardjono-oauth-umacore-09 -- Justin On 07/16/2014 10:12 AM, Maciej Machulak wrote: Mike, See comments below: On 16 July 2014 15:54, Mike Jones

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Machulak
Mike, See comments below: On 16 July 2014 15:54, Mike Jones wrote: > OK - looking back at the parameter name change example, I agree that this > was first discussed in the OAuth WG and was adopted by both specs at about > the same time, so I agree that that's an example of information flowing i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Mike Jones
OK - looking back at the parameter name change example, I agree that this was first discussed in the OAuth WG and was adopted by both specs at about the same time, so I agree that that's an example of information flowing in the other direction. (I doubt that anyone will assert IPR about a param

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
It's quite true that the OIDC draft predates -00 of the IETF draft, and I'm sorry if that was unclear from what I said as I was not intending to misrepresent the history. And it's true that the UMA draft predates both of these by a fair whack and at the very least provided inspiration in how to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Mike Jones
I disagree with one aspect of Justin's characterization of the history of the spec and have data to back up my disagreement. The OpenID Connect Dynamic Registration Specification was not based on draft-ietf-oauth-dyn-reg-00 or the UMA specification. It was created independently by John Bradley

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
I like the idea of adding some of the text in the introduction, as I agree the compatibility is an important (and hard-won) accomplishment. I think taking Mike's text, expanding it, and putting it in the introduction might serve the overall purpose just fine: Portions of this specification are

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Machulak
Hi, Yes, I agree - I think the note should mention UMA. As Justin proposed, there should be a normative reference to an IETF document. Kind regards, Maciej On 16 July 2014 13:44, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Interesting background information. Maybe we should then extend the note > Mike provide

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Interesting background information. Maybe we should then extend the note Mike provided to also clarify the relationship with the UMA work (both in terms to IPR, copyright, and attribution-wise). It would also make sense to state the relationship in the introduction to highlight the compatibility,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Justin Richer
I thought I had sent this note already, but I don't see it in the archives or in my 'sent' folder: If we're going to point to OpenID Connect (which I'm fine with), then we should clarify that portions were also taken from the UMA specification. In fact, draft -00 actually *was* the UMA specifi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Thanks, Mike. This is a useful addition and reflects the relationship between the two efforts. Please add it to the next draft version. Ciao Hannes On 07/15/2014 09:46 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > So that the working group has concrete language to consider, propose the > following language to the OA

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration: IPR Confirmation

2014-07-16 Thread Maciej Machulak
Hi, My apologies for a late reply. Same here, no IPR disclosures to make regarding these documents. Kind regards, Maciej On 8 July 2014 19:06, Mike Jones wrote: > I likewise do not hold any IPR on these specs. > -- > From: Phil Hunt > Sent: ‎7/‎8/‎2014 9:11 AM