Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Chuck Mortimore
Open to how it can be improved. What information do you think would be helpful? ( we may be too close to the situation to know what's missing ) On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Chuck Mortimore > wrote: > > What you're descr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Antonio Sanso
Hi Chuck, On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Chuck Mortimore wrote: > What you're describing is exactly what the JWT bearer flow specs out > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer > > We've got the exact same flow, and there are other implementations out there. > http://login.s

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Chuck Mortimore
What you're describing is exactly what the JWT bearer flow specs out http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer We've got the exact same flow, and there are other implementations out there. http://login.salesforce.com/help/doc/en/remoteaccess_oauth_jwt_flow.htm On Tue, Sep 24, 2013

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Phil Hunt
Just looking at your subject line, and I may have this wrong but are you not asking about chaining? In server to server you need a way for the second server to accept a token from the first to propagate the authorization correct? Phil > On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:08, Antonio Sanso wrote: > > Hi *,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Antonio Sanso
On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Bill Mills wrote: > So they are using client authentication as defined on OAuth 2 then? good point indeed :) My main point is that all the pieces of the puzzle to solve this scenario are probably there beetwen the OAuth core the JWT and the JWT bearer token speci

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Bill Mills
So they are using client authentication as defined on OAuth 2 then? On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:18 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: Hi chuck, On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Mortimore wrote: I'm not sure I understand your point here.   I don't believe there is anything custom or special

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Antonio Sanso
Hi chuck, On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Mortimore wrote: > I'm not sure I understand your point here. I don't believe there is > anything custom or special about the google implementation here vs JWT. It > looks identical to our implementation. > > Can you elaborate? sure. What

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Chuck Mortimore
I'm not sure I understand your point here. I don't believe there is anything custom or special about the google implementation here vs JWT. It looks identical to our implementation. Can you elaborate? - cmort On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: Hi Brian, thanks a lot for your

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Antonio Sanso
Hi Brian, thanks a lot for your pointer. What the custom Google flow provides more than the oauth jwt bearer draft is IMHO an explicit way to build JWT without any 'human interaction' so a server can handle the construction of an expired JWT bearer token on his own. This can of course be figur

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Brian Campbell
Might this http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer be what you're looking for? On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 6:08 AM, Antonio Sanso wrote: > Hi *, > > apologis to be back to this argument :). > > Let me try to better explain one use case that IMHO would be really good > to have in the

[OAUTH-WG] Oauth Server to Server

2013-09-24 Thread Antonio Sanso
Hi *, apologis to be back to this argument :). Let me try to better explain one use case that IMHO would be really good to have in the OAuth specification family :) At the moment the only "OAuth standard" way I know to do OAuth server to server is to use [0] namely Resource Owner Password Cred