Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-10 Thread Igor Faynberg
Oh no... I never even noticed the drama. I thought that everything has been agreed on... Igor On 6/8/2012 5:31 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I must say that I found it surprising, too. An explanation beforehand from the chairs would have helped to prevent confusion. On 6/8/12 3:28 PM, Eran Ha

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Core -27 Published

2012-06-10 Thread Igor Faynberg
BRAVO! Igor On 6/8/2012 2:08 PM, Dick Hardt wrote: On Jun 8, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Mike Jones wrote: The chairs approved publication of OAuth Core draft -27 today. This version is based upon the proposed changes that I’d circulated to the working group. Changes are: ·Adds character set restr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread John Bradley
So we have two competing good ideas. 1 include an ABNF directly and codify what is expected to to work at the cost of flexibility. 2 Reference RFC 2617 itself referencing RFC 2616 to allow for a future fix to the encoding limitations to be automatically picked up by OAuth if RFC 2617 is updated

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Jones
Hi Julian, As background, the reason for the special ABNF is to satisfy a DISCUSS raised by Sean Turner specifically that specifically requested a comprehensive ABNF. I believe that these very discussions show how valuable Sean's request is to improving the clarity of the spec for implementer'

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-06-10 20:50, Mike Jones wrote: Thanks for your reply, Julian. Given that, as you confirmed, UTF-8 "doesn't work with Basic and Digest", and they're required to be used with Basic, I believe that that confirms that username and password must either be ASCII or ISO-8859-1, and given that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread John Bradley
I think once the WG decided that client_id and client_secret need to be passed as the username and password for HTTP Basic authentication of the client to the Token Endpoint, the Die was cast for those elements to have the same character restrictions. In principal you could use the assertion p

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Jones
2.3.1 of Core http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-v2-27#section-2.3.1 requires support for HTTP Basic. Actually, in this context, it's requiring support for using Basic with client_id and client_secret, therefore I believe those must be restricted to ASCII, as (per Julian's note), UTF-8

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread Phil Hunt
Isn't the nuance that Basic and Digest should be able to be passed through OAuth? Or is there a secondary requirement that uid/passwords forms in OAuth be re-encodable to Basic? So while "UTF-8 may not work with Basic and Digest" is that a valid concern? I think our concern should be limited

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Jones
Thanks for your reply, Julian. Given that, as you confirmed, UTF-8 "doesn't work with Basic and Digest", and they're required to be used with Basic, I believe that that confirms that username and password must either be ASCII or ISO-8859-1, and given that several people have written that ISO-88

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions

2012-06-10 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-06-08 20:09, Mike Jones wrote: Hi Julian, The current draft restricts username and password to ASCII was because RFC 2616 says this about the TEXT fields used by HTTP Basic in RFC 2617: "Words of *TEXT MAY contain characters from character sets other than ISO-8859-1 [22] only w

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-10 Thread Mike Jones
About Julian's issue raised at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg09164.html, please see my message to him and the working group "[OAUTH-WG] Discussion needed on username and password ABNF definitions" at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg09171.html. In i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Franklin, On Jun 9, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Franklin Tse wrote: > I think the chairs should clarify and explain, via this mailing list, > > 1. Whether they have authorized Mike Jones and Dick Hardt to author and > publish the draft Derek and I had asked for a new draft version. We are interested

Re: [OAUTH-WG] New draft process / editor role

2012-06-10 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Eran, Hi all, The story is fairly simple: We have three authors on draft-ietf-oauth-v2. Having more than one author is helpful in case others are busy. We had open issues with the document and we discussed them on the list. Text was proposed and feedback was provided to the list. Thanks eve