Re: [OAUTH-WG] TODO: Mike J./Chuck M. (or me) to draft 4.5.1 subsection on assertions

2011-05-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
We are taking multiple paths trying to find the best balance. There is an effort to draft a new document describing client authentication using assertions. That effort seems to expand to encompass all assertion related business. I'm supportive of that approach. This document may or may not swal

Re: [OAUTH-WG] treatment of client_id in extension grant_types?

2011-05-25 Thread Igor Faynberg
Brian Campbell wrote: Currently (draft -16) client_id is listed as a required parameter for access token request to the token endpoint for all grant types except for extensions. In section 3 there is some disposition of the use of client_id as a means of identification and then, in 3.2, a requ

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TODO: Mike J./Chuck M. (or me) to draft 4.5.1 subsection on assertions

2011-05-25 Thread Anthony Nadalin
So the separate document was already discussed in the design team and in the meeting on Monday, the action item was given to look at creating a separate document for assertion covering authentication and authorization. -Original Message- From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentit

[OAUTH-WG] treatment of client_id in extension grant_types?

2011-05-25 Thread Brian Campbell
Currently (draft -16) client_id is listed as a required parameter for access token request to the token endpoint for all grant types except for extensions. In section 3 there is some disposition of the use of client_id as a means of identification and then, in 3.2, a requirement that client authen

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TODO: Mike J./Chuck M. (or me) to draft 4.5.1 subsection on assertions

2011-05-25 Thread Brian Campbell
It's not exactly clear to me what that means. Near the end of the interim meeting on Monday there was a specific discussion that resulted in a TODO item to draft a 4.5.1 subsection. That's what I've done here and I believe it captures the intent discussed at the meeting. I've written a small prop

Re: [OAUTH-WG] bearer token authorization header

2011-05-25 Thread Mike Jones
What you quoted below was the acceptable syntax. The Authorization Server and the Resource Server still need to agree upon the semantics of the bearer token exchanged. -- Mike -Original Message- From: John Kemp [mailto:j...@jkemp.net] Sent: Wednesday, M

Re: [OAUTH-WG] bearer token authorization header

2011-05-25 Thread Mike Jones
You're correct that I misspoke. The Authorization Server and the Resource Server must agree on the format of the token. Yes, it's opaque to the client. -- Mike -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of P

Re: [OAUTH-WG] bearer token authorization header

2011-05-25 Thread John Kemp
On May 24, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > George, you are correct that resources and clients must agree upon the format > of the bearer token to achieve interoperability. The means for achieving > this agreement is out of the scope of this document. I thought the means for achieving IOP

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TODO: Mike J./Chuck M. (or me) to draft 4.5.1 subsection on assertions

2011-05-25 Thread Anthony Nadalin
In our case they are tightly bound as the assertions (same assertion) will be used for authentication and also to grant authorization as this is what was in scope with WRAP, so not addressing the assertion authentication is an issue for us and I assume others also. -Original Message- F

Re: [OAUTH-WG] TODO: Mike J./Chuck M. (or me) to draft 4.5.1 subsection on assertions

2011-05-25 Thread Brian Campbell
That is another way to approach it and I understand there has been some talk about that lately. While there are admittedly some commonalities between assertion based grants and an HTTP parameter based client authentication extension point, I personally think that lumping them together is unnecessa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] bearer token authorization header

2011-05-25 Thread Paul Madsen
Mike/George, can you clarify in what sense must a client and RS agree on the format of a bearer token? Are they not opaque to the client, and so their internal format irrelevant to it? paul On 5/24/11 4:04 PM, Mike Jones wrote: George, you are correct that resources and clients must agree upo