Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth v2 Authorization Header Credentials

2010-10-27 Thread Manger, James H
Mark, ยง5.1.1 (where the ABNF for credentials is defined) will move out of the OAuth core spec in the doc split. I would like to see the bearer spec use a non-OAuth scheme name when it defines its Authorization header. I strongly favour restricting tokens to a much smaller alphabet, such as the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth v2 Authorization Header Credentials

2010-10-27 Thread Manger, James H
-- James Manger -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Lentczner Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:44 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth v2 Authorization Header Credentials In my work implementing OAuth v2 to draft

Re: [OAUTH-WG] So back to use cases? (was RE: Call for Consensus on Document Split)

2010-10-27 Thread George Fletcher
I'm not sure what you mean by signatures improving privacy? I don't see signature having much effect on privacy. Encryption is needed for that. However, signatures do limit the scope of exposure should a token get exposed in some manner. In that sense a user is protected because a leaked token

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth v2 Authorization Header Credentials

2010-10-27 Thread Mark Lentczner
In my work implementing OAuth v2 to draft 10, I have had to review the definition of credentials included in an Authorization header. I believe this current definition has some significant issues for parsers. However, with some small clean up of the definition, proposed below, I believe that the cr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] So back to use cases? (was RE: Call for Consensus on Document Split)

2010-10-27 Thread Skylar Woodward
On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Freeman, Tim wrote: > The questions currently interesting to me about use cases are: > > * The only use cases that made sense to me about signatures used them for > auditability, where they enabled blame to be properly placed after > information leaked to the wrong

Re: [OAUTH-WG] GOOG1

2010-10-27 Thread Marius Scurtescu
Hi James, Finally got around to get an answer for your question: "GOOG1 is an authentication scheme specific to Google Storage for Developers, and is designed to provide interoperability with a large number of cloud storage tools and libraries that work with services such as Amazon Simple Storage

Re: [OAUTH-WG] So back to use cases? (was RE: Call for Consensus on Document Split)

2010-10-27 Thread Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary)
>* Use cases that justify a feature seem to require two parts -- an example >>where the feature is absent and therefore a particular problem cannot be >>solved, and an example where the feature is present and the same problem >can >then be solved. There are use cases that can be supported by mo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] So back to use cases? (was RE: Call for Consensus on Document Split)

2010-10-27 Thread William Mills
Another use case for signatures is gross management of relationships, controlling the secrets in use for (I'll misuse the term) peers allows a single point of control for that relationship. > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of

[OAUTH-WG] So back to use cases? (was RE: Call for Consensus on Document Split)

2010-10-27 Thread Freeman, Tim
On the face of it, it seems that discussion of whether and how to split the document has derailed collection of use cases. If we had consensus on a list of use cases, that would mean we have identified the problems we're trying to solve. This would still allow slimy political manipulation of t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Simple Web Discovery

2010-10-27 Thread Mike Jones
These posts of Yaron's outline the basic vision and flows: http://www.goland.org/adhocauthentication/ http://www.goland.org/oauthgenericdelegation/ We hope to also come out with a description in Internet-draft style soon to provide concrete details about possible i

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Tutorial, Monday, November 8, after 19:30 (IAB Technical Plenary) [PROPOSAL]

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
So, after a tough fight with Alexey (which I lost) here is another proposal for the tutorial. There is the IAB technical plenary talk from 16:30 to 19:30. We would meet after the tutorial for the tutorial. Drop me a note if this alternative proposal does not work for you. Ciao Hannes On 10/27/10

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Tutorial, Monday, November 8, 0900-1130

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
The APPs area people are already aware of Oauth; they are welcome in the afternoon for the security discussion. There will always be a conflict and I wanted to have it at the beginning of the week to leave room left for further sessions during the week, if necessary. On 10/27/10 3:13 PM, "Alexey

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Tutorial, Monday, November 8, 0900-1130

2010-10-27 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Hi all, Based on the positive response at the last IETF meeting we decided to hold another Oauth tutorial, namely on Monday, November 8,0900-1130 I am sorry Hannes, but having this tutorial during the Apps Area open meeting is not cool. So "-1" from one of your Ap

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Session, Monday, November 8, 1300-1500

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, We will start our conversations about Oauth security on Monday, November 8, 1300-1500. As a starting point I suggest to look at: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SecurityConsiderations http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SignaturesWhy http://tools.ietf.org/id/draf

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth Tutorial, Monday, November 8, 0900-1130

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, Based on the positive response at the last IETF meeting we decided to hold another Oauth tutorial, namely on Monday, November 8,0900-1130 If you plan to participate drop me a note. I will post information about the meeting room to the Oauth mailing list in time before the meeting. Ciao

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Consensus on Document Split

2010-10-27 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, based on the feedback from the group on the list we go forward with the document split. Mike had kindly offered to edit the bearer specification and we are happy to hear that. Thank you Mike. I am looking forward to see the first document. Ciao Hannes On 10/14/10 3:32 AM, "Blaine Cook

[OAUTH-WG] Kiva OAuth design decisions

2010-10-27 Thread Skylar Woodward
Kiva is in the process of implementing OAuth for our API. The current 2.0 draft lacks signatures which we determined as a necessary layer of protection for some of our transactions. However, 1.0 is unnecessarily complex and offers a misleading sense of security for apps that can't keep secrets.