Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback solicited for Privacy and Identity Management Terminology

2010-08-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Seems that ISO/IEC 24760 is yet another one that does not align with Recommendation X.1252 (IdM terms) -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Igor Faynberg Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:42 AM To: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/E

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Quick survey: fragment vs. query

2010-08-11 Thread Brian Eaton
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Oleg Gryb wrote: > The thing is that each time when a web app with sensitive info can be run in > a frame, security people would advice to break that > frame-reads-other-frame-data logic, because it can lead to violation of same > origin policy. This is incorrect

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback solicited for Privacy and Identity Management Terminology

2010-08-11 Thread Igor Faynberg
Yes, there is Recommendation X.1252 (IdM terms) and then Y 2720 (NGN identity management framework) has some terms in addition to that. All documents in force are listed, and can be picked up free, at http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/publications/Pages/recs.aspx. Igor Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN -

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Quick survey: fragment vs. query

2010-08-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
From what has been discussed in this thread (and other discussions before), I see the need for the following variants: - code in URI (Web App.) - token in fragment (JS client app) - code in fragment (installed app) - code in URI + token in fragment (Web App. with JS Client?) Any comments? regar

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Eve Maler
Great comments; thanks to Christian for responding. To answer just a couple of more points that I don't think got addressed yet: Yes, we would very much like for dynamic client registration to become a work item of this group. (Do we need to take any steps other than stating so in this email?

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback solicited for Privacy and Identity Management Terminology

2010-08-11 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
I am not aware of the ITU-T terminology. Are the documents publically available? > -Original Message- > From: ext Igor Faynberg [mailto:igor.faynb...@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:31 PM > To: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) > Cc: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [O

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Feedback solicited for Privacy and Identity Management Terminology

2010-08-11 Thread Igor Faynberg
Hannes, This is indeed a very good idea! ITU has been developing the IdM terminology for some time, so this document should prompt the discussion and -- let us hope!-- the alignment of normative terminology. With thanks, Igor Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) wrote: Hi all, Althought

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Scholz
Hi! Am 11.08.10 16:36, schrieb Stefanie Dronia: > Hallo Eve, > > I read your proposal, too. Thanks for providing it. > > Some questions: > # first part of chapter 2 > # enchanced OAuth RS, AS and client are mentioned. Does the > enhancement just denote, that they support dynamic client regis

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 11.08.2010 um 17:40 schrieb Christian Scholz : > Am 11.08.10 17:31, schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt: >> >>> How is a UMA requestor envisioned to discover the auth server? >>> >>> On the Host side the user can tell it which AM (in UMA terms it's an >>> Authorization Manager,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 11.08.2010 um 17:40 schrieb Christian Scholz : > Am 11.08.10 17:31, schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt: >> >>> How is a UMA requestor envisioned to discover the auth server? >>> >>> On the Host side the user can tell it which AM (in UMA terms it's an >>> Authorization Manager,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Scholz
Am 11.08.10 17:31, schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt: > >>> >>> >> >>> How is a UMA requestor envisioned to discover the auth server? >> >> On the Host side the user can tell it which AM (in UMA terms it's an >> Authorization Manager, some sort of extended AS) to use or it might be >> discovered via web

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
>> >> > >> How is a UMA requestor envisioned to discover the auth server? > > On the Host side the user can tell it which AM (in UMA terms it's an > Authorization Manager, some sort of extended AS) to use or it might be > discovered via webfinger or similar means. > > The process for requeste

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Scholz
Hi! Am 11.08.10 12:40, schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt: > Eve, > > thank you for writting this document. I consider it a good starting > point for a discussion about client registration and discovery. Will > you propose this as a WG item? I think that's the plan as it is more related more to OAuth i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Scholz
Hi! Thanks for the feedback! :-) Am 11.08.10 10:20, schrieb Lukas Rosenstock: > Nice to see this draft! > I've just read it and would like to provide some feedback: > > 1) redirect_url vs. redirect_uri: In different flows, different terms > have been used. I think that should be consistent and i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Stefanie Dronia
Hallo Eve, I read your proposal, too. Thanks for providing it. Some questions: # first part of chapter 2 # enchanced OAuth RS, AS and client are mentioned. Does the enhancement just denote, that they support dynamic client registration or have any further requirements to be fulfilled by th

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Scope: why is the format predetermined?

2010-08-11 Thread Luke Shepard
Can you explain your use case a little more, and provide an example of why the current system doesn't work for you? We have had numerous previous discussions about the format of scope, and the spec represents the consensus around how people plan to use them. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/

[OAUTH-WG] Scope: why is the format predetermined?

2010-08-11 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
Hey, We have a use case for a scope that's more fine-grained/flexible than what you could explain in a set of space-delimited keywords. We would like to encode things like the precision with which some data can be accessed, and the scope sounds like the reasonable place to do that. Of course we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 11.08.2010 um 12:40 schrieb Torsten Lodderstedt : > Eve, > > thank you for writting this document. I consider it a good starting point for > a discussion about client registration and discovery. Will you propose this > as a WG item? > > My comments & questions: > > You propose a host-m

[OAUTH-WG] Feedback solicited for Privacy and Identity Management Terminology

2010-08-11 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi all, Althought this request is only indirectly related to the OAuth protocol work I nevertheless think your input is valuable. We have just submitted a new version of the privacy and identity management terminology document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hansen-privacy-terminology-

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Eve, thank you for writting this document. I consider it a good starting point for a discussion about client registration and discovery. Will you propose this as a WG item? My comments & questions: You propose a host-meta based discovery of the registration endpoint on the authz server. Could

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Proposal for OAuth dynamic client registration

2010-08-11 Thread Lukas Rosenstock
Nice to see this draft! I've just read it and would like to provide some feedback: 1) redirect_url vs. redirect_uri: In different flows, different terms have been used. I think that should be consistent and it should be uri. 2) Data formats for requests: This spec uses JSON for everything. The co