Re: [NMusers] Question about interoccation variability

2012-07-12 Thread Nick Holford
Claire, See below: On 11/07/2012 9:45 p.m., Xu, Claire wrote: Hi Nick, Thank you a lot for clarifying how to incorporate BOV in the model. I tested BOV on F1 with the same option as well as variable BOVs on F1 from different occasions. But either of them improved the fitting. I am not sure

Re: [NMusers] Question about interoccation variability

2012-07-12 Thread Xu, Claire
Hi Nick, Thanks for your helpful comment. I will test BOV + BSV on my absorption model parameters first. Sorry for my typo. I meant neither of the models improved the fit. Thanks again for your help. Best, Claire On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Nick Holford wrote: > Claire, > > See below: > > >

RE: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread pascal . girard
Hi Robert, Thanks for your quick reply. Unfortunately, I could not make it work. I have 17,000 records. So just after $PROB. I inserted your suggestion: $SIZES LIM1 = 2 and I got the following error : > Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid So I tried also the default va

RE: [NMusers] Question about interoccation variability

2012-07-12 Thread Mats Karlsson
Dear Claire, If you have data only from oral doses and covariances between disposition parameters (CL; V), then you will not get any further improvement by introducing variability in F1. Best regards, Mats Mats Karlsson, PhD Professor of Pharmacometrics FIRST WORLD CONFERENCE ON

Re: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread Ekaterina Gibiansky
Hi Pascal, $SIZES should be before $PROB. It should be the first uncommented line in the file. Regards, Katya Ekaterina Gibiansky, Ph.D. CEO&CSO, QuantPharm LLC Web: www.quantpharm.com Email: egibian...@quantpharm.com Tel: (301)-717-7

RE: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread pascal . girard
Hi Nastia, I tried your trick which would have broken the first table law rule "The first NM-TRAN control record must be a $PROBLEM record" and put $SIZES as very first record and got following error: >_read_problems: First non-comment line in modelfile run.mod is not a $PROB record. NONMEM s

RE: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread Kassir Nastya
Hi Pascal, I have already used it with NONMEM 72 and it works, but not in psn. $SIZES LIM6=1000 $PROBLEM XX Best regards, Nastya From: pascal.gir...@merckgroup.com [mailto:pascal.gir...@merckgroup.com] Sent: Thu 7/12/2012 11:09 To: Kassir Nastya; Bau

Re: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread pascal . girard
Hi Katya, As I just replied to Nasty, when I put $SIZES as very first record I get the following error: >_read_problems: First non-comment line in modelfile run.mod is not a $PROB record. NONMEM syntax violation. It might be that this message comes from psn ... I have to check this ... Thanks

Re: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread Bill Knebel
Pascal, That error looks like a PSN error rather than NONMEM. I can confirm that for NM7.2 the $SIZES record must be the first record of the control stream. You might try bypassing PSN if possible and I bet you will not get that error. Bill Bill Knebel, PharmD, PhD

RE: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread pascal . girard
Hi Nastya, You were right : it is my psn installation that refuses to see something else than $PROB as first line as I just checked by running it directly from nmfe72 You cannot stop the progress! Thanks again and Kind regards Pascal From: "Kassir Nastya" To: , "Bauer, Robert

[NMusers] Mixture model

2012-07-12 Thread Fisher Dennis
Colleagues I am analyzing data in which there are two distinct populations as a result of CYP2D6 deficiency. In one dataset, there are 18 subjects with rich data; one of these subjects is markedly different. In that the incidence of 2D6 deficiency is reported to be < 10%, one would expect onl

Re: [NMusers] Error files when using multicore runs and psn ==> Fatal Error: Record SIZES is not valid

2012-07-12 Thread Julia Korell University
Hi Pascal According to the documentation PsN 3.4.8 and later supports $SIZES. http://psn.sourceforge.net/pdfdocs/PsN_and_NONMEM7.pdf We are running version 3.5.3 and that works fine. Regards Julia *"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" Albert Einste

Re: [NMusers] Question about interoccation variability

2012-07-12 Thread Claire
Hi Mat, Yes, I only have oral PK data and as you expected, the introduction of variability on F didn't improve the fit. As Nick suggested previously, I also tried different combinations of BSV and BOV on ka and Tlag using one compartment and two compartment model. The incorporation of BOV on k

RE: [NMusers] Mixture model

2012-07-12 Thread Gobburu, Joga
Dear Dennis - Some approaches for you to consider: 1. Brute Force Model: I hope there is some prior information about the CL for poor and extensive metabolizers. I am also assuming the difference between PM and EM is meaningful. In that case, simply assume that this subject is a PM and