Re: unreadably narrow column in rendering of page

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 03:44:06PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: > These pages from local newspaper takes ages in the fetching-processing > stage, and then finally displays its text in a pane that is too narrow > to read. > http://www.centralsomersetgazette.co.uk/Just-doctor-ordered/story-26229361-deta

Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
I know several RISC OS users regularly use the CI builds and have had issues with the disc cache. This is partly a request for assistance and partly a warning. I have recently changed the disc based caching to use fewer small files. This change is not backwards compatible and will leave the old ca

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > (2298.804881) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing > store average bandwidth 128324035 bytes/second Hells bells - you'll be lucky to a tenth of that speed on RISC OS hardware and probably less on usb or sdfs

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 directories and over 19,000 files. -- Chris Johnson

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL forum. Message came up almost immediately that the cache was being disabled. Qu

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Nagel
Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read > something like: > (2298.806358) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_exi

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
Vincent Sanders, on 3 Apr, wrote: [snip - cache bandwidth] NetSurf 2696 RPi2 SDFS 6067 bytes/s RPi2 Fat32FS 15220 bytes/s Iyonix320252 bytes/s A9home509265 bytes/s VRPC W7 SSD 605771 bytes/s -- David Pitt

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:48:39PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: > Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: > > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will re

Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread netsurf
In article <54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, cj wrote: > I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just > deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 > directories and over 19,000 files. Yes, there seem to be lots of directories - many empty. The non-emp

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: > In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, >Vincent Sanders wrote: > > The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log > > I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL > forum. Message came up almost immediately that

Re: unreadably narrow column in rendering of page

2015-04-03 Thread J. F. Lemaire
On 31 March 2015 at 16:44, Jim Nagel wrote: > These pages from local newspaper takes ages in the fetching-processing > stage, and then finally displays its text in a pane that is too narrow > to read. > http://www.centralsomersetgazette.co.uk/Just-doctor-ordered/story-26229361-detail/story.html >

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: > In article <54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, >cj wrote: > > I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just > > deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 > > directories and ove

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article , David Pitt wrote: > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was > no "too slow" message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk > because that is a particularly heavy duty site. OK. A lot of random browsing around that site led to: (5743.13) cont

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread netsurf
In article <20150403131050.gq29...@platypus.pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: > > In article <54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, > >cj wrote: > > > I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 02:39:05PM +0100, cj wrote: > In article , >David Pitt wrote: > > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was > > no "too slow" message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk > > because that is a particularly heavy duty site. > > OK. A l

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
> > > > > > I suspect much of the delay for small files is due to checking, > > > creating, and traversing directories! > > > The depth was chosen so it would work on poor-quality file systems that > > only allow a handful of entries in a directory, such as FileCore :) > > It is a shame that

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: > In article , >David Pitt wrote: > > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no > > "too slow" message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because > > that is a particularly heavy duty site. > > OK. A lot of random browsing around th

Re: unreadably narrow column in rendering of page

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
"J. F. Lemaire", on 3 Apr, wrote: > On 31 March 2015 at 16:44, Jim Nagel wrote: > > These pages from local newspaper takes ages in the fetching-processing > > stage, and then finally displays its text in a pane that is too narrow > > to read. > > http://www.centralsomersetgazette.co.uk/Just-docto

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I have now tried on the PandaBoard. Used random pages from the Daily Mail site (not much content if you are not interested in celebrates!). The first time I tried I fairly quickly ended up with the cache being disabled - the logged average speed was not much over 100 KB/s. However, I then reran N

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 03:13:17PM +0100, David Pitt wrote: > I also think NetSurf's performance is severely hampered by the slow > processors available to RISC OS. No, the CPUs are perfectly adequately fast. A Raspberry Pi can do many megabytes a second when running Linux. RISC OS's IO layer an

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article , David Pitt wrote: > Can't say that I blame it! The ROOL forum content is particularly > turgid at the moment, no sensible software would see any purpose in > cacheing that. > I am not sure what you mean there. Viewing the forum on an old (ex-XP) laptop now running a light linux,

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread lists
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read > something like: >