Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-09 Thread Chris Newman
In article <55256ea0.8010...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > On 08/04/15 12:41, Chris Newman wrote: > > So given all this, on my RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod, to > > what > > should I set the Cache parameters in NetSurf Choices? > Too slow to be useful. Set dis

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-09 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 3 Apr 2015 as I do recall, Vincent Sanders wrote: [snip] > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read > something like: > > (2

Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-08 Thread Michael Drake
On 08/04/15 12:41, Chris Newman wrote: So given all this, on my RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod, to what should I set the Cache parameters in NetSurf Choices? Too slow to be useful. Set disc cache size to 0. -- Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/

Re: Updated disc cache summary

2015-04-08 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20150408104544.gg18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > Just to summarise the outcome of all the observations on the improved > disc cache. > The improvements make the cache viable on many more supported systems, > including more RISC OS systems. > On PC with modern OS it m

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-07 Thread netsurf
In article <20150403135750.ge18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > > > > > I suspect much of the delay for small files is due to checking, > > > > creating, and traversing directories! > > > > > The depth was chosen so it would work on poor-quality file systems > > > that only allow

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-07 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org> on 3 Apr 2015 Vincent Sanders wrote: > I know several RISC OS users regularly use the CI builds and have had > issues with the disc cache. This is partly a request for assistance > and partly a warning. > I have recently changed the disc based ca

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-06 Thread lists
In article , Andrew Pinder wrote: > > In article <54aec5195fstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, > >lists wrote: > >> Average bandwidth 355822 bytes/second > >> NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 > > So nothing much to write home about there, considering some of the > > hype surrounding the disc spe

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-06 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <54af215e1bch...@chris-johnson.org.uk> on 4 Apr 2015 cj wrote: > In article <54aec5195fstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, >lists wrote: >> Average bandwidth 355822 bytes/second >> NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 > So nothing much to write home about there, considering some of the > hy

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread lists
In article <54af215e1bch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, cj wrote: > > NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 > So nothing much to write home about there, considering some of the > hype surrounding the disc speed of the ARMX6. I'm not sure how much the download speed affects the results; I had several "timeouts"

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread cj
In article <54aec5195fstuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > Average bandwidth 355822 bytes/second > NetSurf CI #2680 ARMX6 So nothing much to write home about there, considering some of the hype surrounding the disc speed of the ARMX6. -- Chris Johnson

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread george greenfield
In message <20150403135237.gd18...@kyllikki.org> Vincent Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 02:39:05PM +0100, cj wrote: >> In article , >>David Pitt wrote: >> > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was >> > no "too slow" message. My test piece was ht

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread Brian Jordan
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: [Snip] > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. [Snip] (152.54) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing store average bandwidth 561256 bytes/second -- __

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-04 Thread Brian
[snip] > I would suggest that any of you using the disc cache to delete it > before running a NetSurf CI version after #2696 NetSurf will continue > to run just fine if you do not but all the old cache files will be > left behind and never cleaned up. Is there a ',' or an '.' missing somewhere? T

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread lists
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read > something like: >

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article , David Pitt wrote: > Can't say that I blame it! The ROOL forum content is particularly > turgid at the moment, no sensible software would see any purpose in > cacheing that. > I am not sure what you mean there. Viewing the forum on an old (ex-XP) laptop now running a light linux,

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 03:13:17PM +0100, David Pitt wrote: > I also think NetSurf's performance is severely hampered by the slow > processors available to RISC OS. No, the CPUs are perfectly adequately fast. A Raspberry Pi can do many megabytes a second when running Linux. RISC OS's IO layer an

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I have now tried on the PandaBoard. Used random pages from the Daily Mail site (not much content if you are not interested in celebrates!). The first time I tried I fairly quickly ended up with the cache being disabled - the logged average speed was not much over 100 KB/s. However, I then reran N

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: > In article , >David Pitt wrote: > > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was no > > "too slow" message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk because > > that is a particularly heavy duty site. > > OK. A lot of random browsing around th

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
> > > > > > I suspect much of the delay for small files is due to checking, > > > creating, and traversing directories! > > > The depth was chosen so it would work on poor-quality file systems that > > only allow a handful of entries in a directory, such as FileCore :) > > It is a shame that

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 02:39:05PM +0100, cj wrote: > In article , >David Pitt wrote: > > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was > > no "too slow" message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk > > because that is a particularly heavy duty site. > > OK. A l

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread netsurf
In article <20150403131050.gq29...@platypus.pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: > > In article <54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, > >cj wrote: > > > I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article , David Pitt wrote: > Hmm! My Iyonix did over three time better than that, and there was > no "too slow" message. My test piece was http://www.dailymail.co.uk > because that is a particularly heavy duty site. OK. A lot of random browsing around that site led to: (5743.13) cont

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:30:14PM +0100, nets...@avisoft.f9.co.uk wrote: > In article <54ae82a927ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, >cj wrote: > > I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just > > deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 > > directories and ove

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
cj, on 3 Apr, wrote: > In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, >Vincent Sanders wrote: > > The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log > > I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL > forum. Message came up almost immediately that

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:48:39PM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: > Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: > > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will re

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread David Pitt
Vincent Sanders, on 3 Apr, wrote: [snip - cache bandwidth] NetSurf 2696 RPi2 SDFS 6067 bytes/s RPi2 Fat32FS 15220 bytes/s Iyonix320252 bytes/s A9home509265 bytes/s VRPC W7 SSD 605771 bytes/s -- David Pitt

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Nagel
Vincent Sanders wrote on 3 Apr: > If you are feeling very adventurous you can report the bandwidth > achieved. This is a line in the debug Log file held in scrap *after* > the browser has been quit. The last line of the Log will read > something like: > (2298.806358) desktop/netsurf.c netsurf_exi

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > The bandwidth line will be about 20 lines from the end of the log I restarted Netsurf with cache enabled on the Iyonix. Loaded up the ROOL forum. Message came up almost immediately that the cache was being disabled. Qu

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
I can see why RISC OS gets indigestion with the cache. Have just deleted the cache on the Iyonix, and there were over 21,000 directories and over 19,000 files. -- Chris Johnson

Re: Updated disc cache

2015-04-03 Thread cj
In article <20150403111441.gb18...@kyllikki.org>, Vincent Sanders wrote: > (2298.804881) content/llcache.c llcache_finalise 3352: Backing > store average bandwidth 128324035 bytes/second Hells bells - you'll be lucky to a tenth of that speed on RISC OS hardware and probably less on usb or sdfs