Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread george greenfield
In message <20151013152414.gb23...@platypus.pepperfish.net> Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 04:39:32AM -0800, Dave Higton wrote: >> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:09:27 +0100 George Greenfield wrote: >> >> > I must confess to having used Ctrl-Break from time to time, when faced >

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Richard Porter
On 13 Oct 2015 Tim Hill wrote: >> Summary: Always try Alt-Break first (and the a clean shutdown >> straight after), and only Ctrl-Break/Hardware reset button as a last >> resort. > The ultimate last resort is to 'cycle the power switch' as sometimes > that's the only way out of t

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Richard Porter
On 13 Oct 2015 Rob Kendrick wrote: > Ctrl-Break essentially calls OS_Reset, which causes a software > reset that for all but the very most obscure situations is > functionally identical to pressing the hardware reset button. But not necessarily identical to switching off

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Tim Hill
In article <20151013152414.gb23...@platypus.pepperfish.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: [Snip] > Summary: Always try Alt-Break first (and the a clean shutdown > straight after), and only Ctrl-Break/Hardware reset button as a last > resort. The ultimate last resort is to 'cycle the power s

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 04:39:32AM -0800, Dave Higton wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:09:27 +0100 George Greenfield wrote: > > > I must confess to having used Ctrl-Break from time to time, when faced > > with a frozen desktop, without evident ill-effects. Is it considered > > worse than powering-o

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Tim Hill
In article <3905267cd73.0091d...@davehigton.me.uk>, Dave Higton wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:30:09 +0100 Tim Hill wrote: > > This is from my obey file Boot:choices.boot.tasks.Tim's > > > > | next line disables ctrl/break; use reset. see message > > | > > Fx 247 169 0 > Lest the comment

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Dave Higton
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:30:09 +0100 Tim Hill wrote: > This is from my obey file Boot:choices.boot.tasks.Tim's > > | next line disables ctrl/break; use reset. see message > | > Fx 247 169 0 Lest the comment in the snippet above should mislead anybody: Don't use Reset. Use Alt-Break if multi-tas

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Tim Hill
In article <8ee8e81155.geo...@tiscali..co.uk>, george greenfield wrote: > In message Gavin Wraith >wrote: > > In message <35e4e54c747.0d53d...@davehigton.me.uk> Dave Higton > >wrote: > > > > > >>There's another point worth making here. If you think NS has > >>crash

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Dave Higton
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:09:27 +0100 George Greenfield wrote: > I must confess to having used Ctrl-Break from time to time, when faced > with a frozen desktop, without evident ill-effects. Is it considered > worse than powering-off at the switch, which is the only other option > AFAIK? Probably, al

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread george greenfield
In message Gavin Wraith wrote: > In message <35e4e54c747.0d53d...@davehigton.me.uk> > Dave Higton wrote: > > >>There's another point worth making here. If you think NS has >>crashed, use Alt-Break. Note: NEVER use Ctrl-Break, various >>RISC OS luminaries class it as

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Gavin Wraith
In message <35e4e54c747.0d53d...@davehigton.me.uk> Dave Higton wrote: >There's another point worth making here. If you think NS has >crashed, use Alt-Break. Note: NEVER use Ctrl-Break, various >RISC OS luminaries class it as Evil and say it Breaks Discs. Thanks very much for thi

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-13 Thread Dave Higton
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:37:33 +0100 Dave Higton wrote: > In message > Gavin Wraith wrote: > > >Twice in succession now I have found that NetSurf #2988, with > >Javascript disabled, hangs when I try to browse > >http://kenodoxia.blogspot.com/ . > >This is on an Rpi 2 with RO 5.23. > >Wh

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-12 Thread Dave Higton
In message Gavin Wraith wrote: >Twice in succession now I have found that NetSurf #2988, with >Javascript disabled, hangs when I try to browse >http://kenodoxia.blogspot.com/ . >This is on an Rpi 2 with RO 5.23. >When I switch on again I check the SD card with >DiscKnight. On the first

Re: #2988 hanging

2015-10-12 Thread Brian Howlett
On 12 Oct, Gavin Wraith wrote: > Twice in succession now I have found that NetSurf #2988, with Javascript > disabled, hangs when I try to browse http://kenodoxia.blogspot.com/. > This is on an Rpi 2 with RO 5.23. > When I switch on again I check the SD card with DiscKnight. On the first > occas

#2988 hanging

2015-10-12 Thread Gavin Wraith
Twice in succession now I have found that NetSurf #2988, with Javascript disabled, hangs when I try to browse http://kenodoxia.blogspot.com/ . This is on an Rpi 2 with RO 5.23. When I switch on again I check the SD card with DiscKnight. On the first occasion there were 9 faults. Mend them with Disc