Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:10:43 +0100 Harriet Bazley wrote: > The reason for swapping fonts (assuming that other people mean by that > what I do, of course) is the same as the reason for organising files > into directories, or any other form of subdivision: once you get > beyond a relatively small n

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 6 Jul 2009 as I do recall, Russell Hafter wrote: > Like Rob, I do not understand why people would be swapping > fonts all the time either. I have 25 font families on this > machine, and feel pretty certain that I could bin at least > 50% of them and never know the difference! I do no

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 12:47 +0100, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 21:03 +0100, Mike Hobbs wrote: > > I mention this here because, as I think others have also pointed > > out, the mechanism for font scanning probably needs reviewing. > > It seems that seemingly minor changes to a mac

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 14:11 +0100, Simon Smith wrote: > In message <50769a0f19ba...@e-allen.me.uk> > Barry E Allen wrote: > > > In article <1246880870.32517.128.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell > > wrote: > > > There are 2 kinds of scan: full and partial. > > > > > > > A partial scan wi

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Simon Smith
In message <50769a0f19ba...@e-allen.me.uk> Barry E Allen wrote: > In article <1246880870.32517.128.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell > wrote: > > There are 2 kinds of scan: full and partial. > > > > A partial scan will occur if there are new fonts available. As the > > name suggests, it

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Barry E Allen
In article <1246880870.32517.128.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > There are 2 kinds of scan: full and partial. > A partial scan will occur if there are new fonts available. As the > name suggests, it will only scan those new fonts, and nothing else. Netsurf scans and finds the font 'Lampo

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 21:03 +0100, Mike Hobbs wrote: > Thanks to John-Mark my problem was fixed (for a while) by > making sure I had the latest FontManager. However, I unexpectedly > had the problem return and the reason was that I had changed some > fonts by synchronizing between my laptop and de

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 6 Jul 2009 Michael Drake wrote: > In article , >Dr Peter Young wrote: >> How did you make the screenshot, I wonder? I'd be interested to do that >> with a couple of the Unicode fonts that I have. > It's a screenshot of RUfl Chars, a sort of example program that comes with > RUfl. I don

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article <4a51cdc4.6020...@druck.org.uk>, David J. Ruck wrote: > Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > > Having been involved in earlier discussions about > > unicode and NetSurf (at that time) failing to display > > certain eastern European characters I am well aware of > > this. > > But while tha

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread David J. Ruck
Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: Having been involved in earlier discussions about unicode and NetSurf (at that time) failing to display certain eastern European characters I am well aware of this. But while that may be a reason, it does not explain the need for font scanning *to me*. Sorry. He

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article , Dr Peter Young wrote: > How did you make the screenshot, I wonder? I'd be interested to do that > with a couple of the Unicode fonts that I have. It's a screenshot of RUfl Chars, a sort of example program that comes with RUfl. I don't think there is currently a binary of it avail

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 6 Jul 2009 Michael Drake wrote: > In article <507685eb29rh.li...@phone.coop>, >Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: >> But while that may be a reason, it does not explain the need >> for font scanning *to me*. Sorry. > Try reading the description of what RUfl does here: > http://www.netsur

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:13:35 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > "RUfl manages to do all this efficiently by maintaining > cached lookup tables containing various mappings." > > So, would I be correct in thinking that NetSurf, and only > NetSurf, needs to do this font scanning, because it has

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article <50768756a5t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <507685eb29rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > But while that may be a reason, it does not explain the > > need for font scanning *to me*. Sorry. > Try reading the description of what RUf

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:45:16 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > But while that may be a reason, it does not explain the need > for font scanning *to me*. Sorry. If it doesn't scan them, it doesn't know which fonts have which glyphs in, meaning it won't make good use of them. > Also, I was th

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Michael Drake
In article <507685eb29rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > But while that may be a reason, it does not explain the need > for font scanning *to me*. Sorry. Try reading the description of what RUfl does here: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/projects/rufl/ Cheers, -- Mich

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article <20090706092932.0493f...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:13:03 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > In article > > <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, > >Rob Kendrick wrote: > > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:03

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:13:03 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > In article > <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, >Rob Kendrick wrote: > > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:03:02 +0100 Mike Hobbs > > wrote: > > > > And all this trouble seems to be over fonts which > > > NetSu

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:01:42 +0100 Dave Symes wrote: > In article <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, >Rob Kendrick wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:03:02 +0100 > > Mike Hobbs wrote: > > > > And all this trouble seems to be > > > over fonts which NetSurf is never likel

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

2009-07-06 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:03:02 +0100 Mike Hobbs > wrote: > > And all this trouble seems to be over fonts which > > NetSurf is never likely to use. > But NetSurf doesn't know this unless it scans them. Th