Re: parsing error

2008-11-05 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Tony Moore wrote: Using NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (21 Oct 2008 18:15) r5612 both the following urls http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/24.htm http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/25.htm lead to the message 'Parsing the document failed.' At present, NetSurf currently only supports the f

Re: parsing error

2008-11-05 Thread Paul Stewart
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tony Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5 Nov 2008, Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 5 Nov 2008 Tony Moore wrote: >> >>> Using NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (21 Oct 2008 18:15) r5612 both the following >>> urls >> >>>http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages

Re: parsing error

2008-11-05 Thread Tony Moore
On 5 Nov 2008, Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5 Nov 2008 Tony Moore wrote: > > > Using NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (21 Oct 2008 18:15) r5612 both the following > > urls > > >http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/24.htm > >http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/25.htm > > > lead to the message 'Parsi

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread David J. Ruck
On 5 Nov 2008 dave higton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point is that deadlocks /do/ occur in Windows and Linux, two of the > most widely known PMT systems. We've all experienced them. PMT, in > and of itself, is not sufficient to prevent them. > Well, I suppose now you'll tell me that you nev

Re: parsing error

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Nov 2008 Tony Moore wrote: > Using NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (21 Oct 2008 18:15) r5612 both the following > urls >http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/24.htm >http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/25.htm > lead to the message 'Parsing the document failed.' > Can anyone else please confirm this? Yes, t

parsing error

2008-11-05 Thread Tony Moore
Using NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (21 Oct 2008 18:15) r5612 both the following urls http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/24.htm http://www.timeco.com.cn/pages/25.htm lead to the message 'Parsing the document failed.' Can anyone else please confirm this? Using NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (05 Aug 2008 10:00) r4912 (

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Tony Moore
On 5 Nov 2008, John-Mark Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Rob Kendrick wrote: > > > NetSurf working with WebJames on the same machine working at all is > > already a miracle. We spent many hours trying to discover the cause > > of the deadlock, but to no avail. I seem to reca

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Nov 2008 John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Richard Porter wrote: >> On 5 Nov 2008 John-Mark Bell wrote: >> >>> It's a timing-based issue. So that NetSurf can do work when busy, it will >>> only poll the Wimp every N centiseconds (wnere N is some number ... >> >> Did you try changin

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Richard Porter wrote: On 5 Nov 2008 John-Mark Bell wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Rob Kendrick wrote: NetSurf working with WebJames on the same machine working at all is already a miracle. We spent many hours trying to discover the cause of the deadlock, but to no avail. ..

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Nov 2008 John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Rob Kendrick wrote: >> NetSurf working with WebJames on the same machine working at all is >> already a miracle. We spent many hours trying to discover the cause of >> the deadlock, but to no avail. ... > It's a timing-based issue. So th

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread John-Mark Bell
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Rob Kendrick wrote: NetSurf working with WebJames on the same machine working at all is already a miracle. We spent many hours trying to discover the cause of the deadlock, but to no avail. I seem to recall we pointed the finger of blame at the RISC OS networking stack, as

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:33:25 + dave higton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > His point is that in a PMT system, such deadlocks cannot occur, but > > in a CMT system, enormous care must be taken to stop them being > > commonplace. Also, the RISC OS IP st

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread dave higton
Quoting Rob Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:58:10 + > dave higton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Quoting "David J. Ruck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I can replicate this problem to order. I open a window on NetSurf

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:29:52 GMT Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > His point is that in a PMT system, such deadlocks cannot occur, but > > in a CMT system, enormous care must be taken to stop them being > > commonplace. > > As I recall, and it's a long time since I worked on a CMT k

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Nov 2008 Rob Kendrick wrote: > His point is that in a PMT system, such deadlocks cannot occur, but in > a CMT system, enormous care must be taken to stop them being > commonplace. As I recall, and it's a long time since I worked on a CMT kernel, the golden rule was always to grab and releas

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:58:10 + dave higton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting "David J. Ruck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can replicate this problem to order. I open a window on NetSurf > > > which loads my local home page, http://localhost/

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread dave higton
Quoting "David J. Ruck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can replicate this problem to order. I open a window on NetSurf which > > loads my local home page, http://localhost/ > > (internet.websites.index/html), from WebJames. > > You are attempting to use a c

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:45:08 GMT Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are attempting to use a cooperatively multitasked operating > > system to both serve and display content, expect such problems even > > if the browser is working acceptibly with external servers. > > The problem se

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Nov 2008 druck lit the blue touch paper: > Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can replicate this problem to order. I open a window on NetSurf which >> loads my local home page, http://localhost/ >> (internet.websites.index/html), from WebJames. > You are attempting to use a coope

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread David J. Ruck
Richard Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can replicate this problem to order. I open a window on NetSurf which > loads my local home page, http://localhost/ > (internet.websites.index/html), from WebJames. You are attempting to use a cooperatively multitasked operating system to both serve an

Re: Degraded multi-tasking?

2008-11-05 Thread Richard Porter
On 5 Nov 2008 dave higton wrote: > Quoting Harriet Bazley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On 4 Nov 2008 as I do recall, Dave Higton wrote: >> >>> To clarify, the single-tasking has only ever occurred while NS was >>> (in general terms) fetching a page, ... >>> >> Is this distinct from the ancient ... b