ACX100 (softmac-based) driver ready to merge, but is it legal? -- Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-29 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 05:24:51PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Ar Llu, 2006-06-05 am 09:27 -0400, ysgrifennodd John W. Linville: > > Does not the Signed-off-by: line on a patch submission give us some > > level of "good faith" protection? > > > > I'm tempted to take contributors at their word, that t

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-10 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > It's just that a cleanroom approach is a sure way to prove > > > you didn't copy. That's all. > > > > Which is an extremely important detail especially if you have been > > reverse engineering another driver for the same or similar OS where it > > is likely that people will retain know

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Llu, 2006-06-05 am 09:27 -0400, ysgrifennodd John W. Linville: > Does not the Signed-off-by: line on a patch submission give us some > level of "good faith" protection? > > I'm tempted to take contributors at their word, that they have produced > their own work and not copied from others. What

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Arjan van de Ven
> Of course, I didn't know there were serious concerns about this > driver's origin. I hope we aren't confusing this with the atheros > driver...? > > > Please don't let this reverse engineering idiocy hinder wireless driver > > adoption, we're already falling far behind openbsd who are very suc

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:27:37AM -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > Actually, I was planning to merge the softmac-based version for 2.6.18. > It looks like I may want some of Andrew's patches on top (ia64, alpha, etc). duh, didn't know that wasn't in -mm. we want the softmac version of course. -

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:54:51AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:06:36PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:50:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > acx1xx-wireless-driver.patch > > > fix-tiacx-on-alpha.patch > > > tiacx-fix-attribute-packed-war

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 02:48:27PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Why is it a good thing you are blocking this driver? Do you have ANY > indication AT ALL that there is anything fishy about it? Yes. > Paying attention to proper reverse engineering is good. Being > overzealous is not. Being ov

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Arjan van de Ven
> > It's a good thing I pay attention to this issue, too, Mr. Just Go Ahead > And Merge It. dude, name calling is way out of line here. Why is it a good thing you are blocking this driver? Do you have ANY indication AT ALL that there is anything fishy about it? (and don't say "they didn't follo

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:54:51AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:06:36PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:50:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > acx1xx-wireless-driver.patch > > > fix-tiacx-on-alpha.patch > > > tiacx-fix-attribute-packed-war

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Llu, 2006-06-05 am 12:35 +0200, ysgrifennodd Arjan van de Ven: > And to be fair the pwc camera driver was just a guy with a personality > problem rather than any real legal standing. I must disagree there having reviewed the code in question and been directly involved in the fallout. Alan -

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 11:26 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Ar Llu, 2006-06-05 am 10:45 +0200, ysgrifennodd Arjan van de Ven: > > It's just that a cleanroom approach is a sure way to prove > > you didn't copy. That's all. > > Which is an extremely important detail especially if you have been > reverse e

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Alan Cox
Ar Llu, 2006-06-05 am 10:45 +0200, ysgrifennodd Arjan van de Ven: > It's just that a cleanroom approach is a sure way to prove > you didn't copy. That's all. Which is an extremely important detail especially if you have been reverse engineering another driver for the same or similar OS where it i

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:06:36PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:50:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > acx1xx-wireless-driver.patch > > fix-tiacx-on-alpha.patch > > tiacx-fix-attribute-packed-warnings.patch > > tiacx-pci-build-fix.patch > > tiacx-ia64-fix.patch > > > >

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 10:33 +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:15:15PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:06:36 -0400 > > Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It is about time we did something with this large and presumably > > > > usefu

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-05 Thread Andreas Mohr
Hi, On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:15:15PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:06:36 -0400 > Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is about time we did something with this large and presumably useful > > > wireless driver. > > > > I've never had technical objections to m

Re: wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-04 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:06:36 -0400 Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:50:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > acx1xx-wireless-driver.patch > > fix-tiacx-on-alpha.patch > > tiacx-fix-attribute-packed-warnings.patch > > tiacx-pci-build-fix.patch > > tiacx-ia64-fix.pat

wireless (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans)

2006-06-04 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:50:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > acx1xx-wireless-driver.patch > fix-tiacx-on-alpha.patch > tiacx-fix-attribute-packed-warnings.patch > tiacx-pci-build-fix.patch > tiacx-ia64-fix.patch > > It is about time we did something with this large and presumably useful >