On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 06:31:06 -0700, Ca By said:
> Fooled me once shame on you. Fooled me twice... Dont by service from
> companies that allow peering wars to happen at paying customers expense
> (verzon, cogent, ...)
There's one coax coming into my domicile, and the owner of the other end
of the
So the EFF is pushing development of an open CPU router
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/building-open-wireless-router
https://openwireless.org/
It's currently targeting WNDR3800's and based on the CeroWRT software
(which works pretty well in my own experience).
What will possibly be intere
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:33:56 -0400, Zach Hill said:
> First is the SYN from Server A to Server B http://i.imgur.com/E5cu4ev.png
Was this captured with tcpdump on Server A on its way out, or on Server B
on its way in, or at some other point using a span port? The answer matters
if we're suspectin
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:38 -0700, George Herbert said:
> Any idea how well CeroWRT stands up to nation-state level intrusion efforts?
If they are as determined as FBI v Scarfo (the FBI pulled a black bag job
to install a keystroke logger in a mobster's PC to capture his PGP passphrase),
it's pr
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:04:11 EDT, Ray Soucy said:
> A better solution; and the one I think that will be adopted in the
> long term as soon as vendors come into the fold, is to swap out
> RFC1918 with ULA addressing, and swap out PAT with NPT; then use
> policy routing to handle load balancing and
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:04:44 +0200, sth...@nethelp.no said:
> How big is huge? To some degree it depends on how broadcast "chatty"
> the protocols used are - but there's also the matter of having a
> size which makes it possible to troubleshoot. Personally I'd prefer
> an upper limit of a few hund
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:51:52 EDT, Chris Griffin said:
> PrefixesChange ASnum AS Description
> 19227 115->19342 AS15557 LDCOMNET NEUF CEGETEL (formerly LDCOM
> NETWORKS)
Somehow, I get the feeling that a network engineer at AS15557 is about to have
a very bad
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:15:09 CDT, Robert Bonomi said:
> Anybody got draft language for a SLA clause that requires routing 'at least
> one hop _past_ the provider's network edge' for every AS visible at major
> public peering points and/or LookingGlass sites?
*every* ASN? Oh my. ;)
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:26:30 EDT, Steve Richardson said:
> *definitely* concerns me. One thing they do say is that they need
> several IPs per block to assign to their MTAs to handle such a large
> amount of email (3 to 5 million per day). Being primarily focused on
> layers 1 through 4, I don't
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:39:00 MDT, Joel Maslak said:
> I wonder what sort of money .wpad would be worth...
I was thinking .gbmh myself...
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:52:17 CDT, Erik Amundson said:
> I agree, the whole use of the terms 'need' and 'want' in this conversation
> are ridiculous. It's the Internet. The entire thing isn't a 'need'. It's
> not like life support or something that will cause loss of life if it isn't
> there.
If
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 07:44:33 CDT, -Hammer- said:
> Agreed. At an enterprise level, there is no need to risk extended
> downtime to save a buck or two. Redundant hardware is always a good way
> to keep Murphy out of the equation. And as far as hardware failures go,
> it's not that common. Nowaday
On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:13:03 PDT, Owen DeLong said:
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> > In most cases if you have a DoS attack coming from the same Layer-2
> > network that a router is attached to,
> > it would mean there was already a serious security incident that
> > occured to
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:02:14 PDT, Leo Vegoda said:
> Do German web sites not track users with cookies, then?
There's a subtle but significant difference between what cookies give you,
which is "This is the same entity that visited our page at 7:48PM last
Tuesday", and what easily trackable IP addr
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:25:30 PDT, Scott Weeks said:
> (who's still bristling from the last discussion about this where Valdis kept
> saying "Privacy is dead. Get used to it."
Man, leave one smiley off and it follows you for life. ;)
http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-May/036270.htm
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:31:13 PDT, "Brian R. Watters" said:
> We are looking for a SORBS contact as their web site and registration process
> is less than friendly if somehow you get listed by them.
You're new here, aren't you? :)
(Sorry, couldn't resist. Previous discussion on NANOG:
http://ww
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:16:23 PDT, "Brian R. Watters" said:
> Thanks .. their attempts to reach us are blocked via our Barrcacuda's due to
> the fact that they are sending with a blank FROM: and as such Barracuda thinks
> its SPAM
Please clarify. Are they sending
MAIL FROM:(syntactically
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:48:44 EDT, William Herrin said:
> Correction: It's a standard way to denote that "this mail is a bounce
> report."
Correction to your correction: What the RFC actually says:
4.5.5. Messages with a Null Reverse-Path
There are several types of notification messages tha
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:52:50 +0200, Michelle Sullivan said:
> reference to bounce messages and mailing lists.) The registration email
> has a null return path because people will put in forged addresses and
> we don't want them to do that in the first place, and if they do it, we
> certainly don'
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 09:46:13 EDT, William Herrin said:
> Point taken. Bounce reports, temporary failure reports and successful
> delivery reports. Nevertheless, it still isn't for "other
> programmatically generated mail." In fact, the next paragraph in RFC
> 5321 4.5.5 says:
>
> "All other types
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:18:17 EDT, William Herrin said:
> 2. I assume the subscription request came from a web page because if
> it was from an email request you received then you ignored my SPF
> records when generating the confirmation request. That was OK in 2001
> but in 2011 you ought not be d
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:36:22 EDT, William Herrin said:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, wrote:
> >That sort of shoots your "If Woody had gone straight to the
> >SPF record, none of this would have happened" claim.
>
> My WHAT claim?
What you said:
> 2. I assume the subscription request came
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:37:55 PDT, Joel Jaeggli said:
> there are 38453 ASes that appear in the DFZ this week and I don't see
> that number growing to 1 billion anytime soon.
Exactly. Right now, how many routes flap if Comcast drops a state's worth of
cable customers for a moment? What does *your*
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:30:35 PDT, Owen DeLong said:
> On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> >> - Generic consumer grade NAT/Firewall
> >
> > Hobby horse: please make sure it support bridge mode? Those of us who
> > want to put our own routers on the wire will hate you otherwise.
> >
>
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:17:48 EDT, Brian Mengel said:
> In reviewing IPv6 end user allocation policies, I can find little
> agreement on what prefix length is appropriate for residential end
> users. /64 and /56 seem to be the favorite candidates, with /56 being
> slightly preferred.
>
> I am most
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:56:25 MDT, Brielle Bruns said:
> On 8/5/11 10:38 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> > and I don't think*anybody* is big
> > enough to actually burn through a /24 allocation (feel free to prove me
> > wrong..
> > ;)
>
> Never doubt the ability of certain Asian countries t
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 17:04:51 PDT, Bino Gopal said:
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20768-us-internet-providers-hijacking-users-search-queries.html
>
> Thoughts?
You're new here, aren't you? ;)
Anybody who was around when a certain DNS provider started providing a wildcard
for *.com and *.
On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 08:53:05 CDT, Graham Wooden said:
> I should also note that Centurylink has been less than cooperative on even
> thinking about changing my routes to a pref of 70 on our behalf (they don't
> accept communities). I think time to get the account rep involved ...
"they don't accep
On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:47:48 EDT, Randy Carpenter said:
> Does AT&T seriously serve the entire state of Indiana from a single POP???
> Sounds crazy to me.
It makes sense if they're managing to bill customers by the cable mile from
their location to the POP. Imagine a POP in Terre Haute or Indiana
On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:15:17 +0200, Mohacsi Janos said:
> - Home users - they usually don't know what is subnet. Setting up
> different subnets in their SOHO router can be difficult. Usually the
> simple 1 subnet for every device is enough for them. Separating some
> devices into a separate su
On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:12:00 +0200, Mohacsi Janos said:
> You don't have to count the all
> 0 and all
> 1 as reserved maybe each deeice can see /57 or /58 or /59
> depending of capabilities your devices
As I said further down the note - you
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:24:03 +1200, Jonathon Exley said:
> Silly confidentiality notices are usually enforced by silly corporate IT
> departments and cannot be removed by mere mortal employees.
> They are an unavoidable part of life, like Outlook top posting and spam.
They may all three be things
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:37:04 +0200, Tim Vollebregt said:
> http://www.amazon.com/Networking-Dummies-Doug-Lowe/dp/0470534052
>
> Here you go..
Oh, and he wants to read this helpful guide by Eric S. Raymond, too:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Deric doesn't know he wants to..
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:33:53 EDT, Stefan Fouant said:
> Is there an acronym for RTFM when there are a volume of manuals that need to
> be read?
Sure there is. LMGTFY :)
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:22:11 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> folks do get that deric's primary language isn't English right? so
> asking him to explain is probably 'ok'.
> (yes, he could have put more details into his mail, yes it would have
> been more helpful and quicker to an answer for him...)
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:17:02 CDT, trinity.edu's mailer, *not* "Brian R.
Watters" said:
> Sender: brwatt...@absfoc.com
> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: SORBS contact
> Message-Id: <1d95a7a9-8340-45e7-b803-03f1827326e1@brw-abs-office>
> Recipient: ge...@trinity.edu.test-google-a.com, Forwarded:
> gerno.
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:28:57 CDT, Charles N Wyble said:
> I'm curious what other NANOGers have in their home compute centers? On
> the extreme end of course we have mr morris :)
> with his uber lab: http://smorris.uber-geek.net/lab.htm
He doesn't get out much, does he? :)
> So what's in NANOGers
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:53:24 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> anyway, they do these donkey things because they can :( people have no
> real option (except not to play the game, ala war games).
My brother recently tried to get a smartphone without a data plan (as the
phone he wanted was also Wifi-c
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:21:57 PDT, Mark Keymer said:
> I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At
> least those of you that don't give yourself internet.
If I was busy with something mission-critical for work, the data center is 15
minutes from where I live. If I was bu
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:32:00 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said:
> Next time Cogent de-peers someone, customers do not care who was being
> more reasonable. They care that their links are broken.
Wouldn't that mostly affect people who are silly enough to single-home to a
Tier-1 that
gets involved in
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:35 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said:
> And the customers still don't care. They just care _that_ it affected
> them - at least during the problem. Although one can hope they care
> enough to change their behavior afterward.
And yet, people still single-home to Tier-1s. Go
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:01:45 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> It looks like the DHS, FEMA got this emergency wrong... by the time it got to
> NYC it was the equivalent of a normal day in Scotland
I doubt you actually have the sort of flooding Vermont is seeing as a normal
day.
http://www.msnbc.msn.c
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:32:43 EDT, Jay Ashworth said:
> Nah; I have the patched version of sudo, with beer google protection built
> in -- you have to supply a random command line switch from a definition
> before it lets you execute the first command.
"The real reason GNU ls is 8-bit-clean is so t
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:48:17 +0300, Saku Ytti said:
> Seems in this instance someone has deployed QoS and is trusting markings from
> Internet, which is just broken, as they cannot anymore guarantee that customer
> video/voice etc works during congestion, so the QoS product is broken.
Except you
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:20:13 -, Skeeve Stevens said:
> My guess is that 99% of consumer internet access is Asymmetrical (DSL, Cable,
> wireless, etc) and iCloud when launched will 'upload' obscene amounts of
> gigs of music, tv, backups, email, photos, documents/data and so on to their
> idata
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:38:40 EDT, Jay Ashworth said:
> Two people making the same mistake: end-user support telephone calls don't
> generally go to datacenters, do they?
Maybe they've figured out how to let an AI answer the phones. All you need is
text-to-speech, speech-to-text, and the script
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:16:45 EDT, Sharon Goldberg said:
> Point 2: "The security threat model is unrealistic and misguided"
>
> Our paper does not present a security threat model at all. We do not
> present a new security solution.
Unfortunately for all concerned, it's going to be *perceived* as
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:32:57 PDT, Everett Batey said:
> If you can offer any lead(s) to service providers who may subsidize /
> partially subsidize adult handicapped for internet service in LA County CA,
> please, advise me on or off net.
I can't help with the query as phrased - but would you also
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 09:28:28 PDT, Joel jaeggli said:
> The way to achieve a return on invested capital is to attract and retain
> customers who pay for a service which they find compelling.
Only true if long-term returns on investment are suitable for consideration
instead of short-term returns.
On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:13:26 EDT, Dorn Hetzel said:
> Perhaps it can be made ever so slightly less ugly if endpoints get an
> "address" that consists of a 32 bit IP address + (n) upper bits of port
> number.
>
> This might be 4 significant bits to share an IP 16 ways, or 8 significant
> bits to s
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:09:38 EDT, jean-francois.tremblay...@videotron.com said:
> A very interesting point. In order to save precious CGN resources,
> it would not be surprising to see some ISPs asking CDNs to provide
> a private/non-routed behind-CGN leg for local CDN nodes.
>
> For this to w
On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 06:55:33 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> I'm hearing on the news wire 80mph winds will come to UK over the next 72
> hours.
Probably 80kph was intended.
Why is this at all newsworthy? You've previously stated that Irene-like
conditions
are "normal" for Scotland, so it shouldn
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:19:39 PDT, Joel jaeggli said:
> To pop up the stack a bit it's the fact that an organization willing to
> behave in that fashion was in my list of CA certs in the first place.
> Yes they're blackballed now, better late than never I suppose. What does
> that say about the pot
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:00:09 MDT, Keith Medcalf said:
> The current system provides no more authentication or confidentiality
> than if everyone simply used self-signed certificates.
Not strictly true. The current system at least gives you "you have reached
the hostname your browser tried to reac
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:20:51 PDT, "Aaron C. de Bruyn" said:
> I'm pretty fond of the idea proposed by gpgAuth.One key to rule them
> all (and one password) combined with the client verifying the
> server.It's still in its infancy, but it works.
Yes, but it needs to be something that either (a) Joe
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:39:52 -, Marcus Reid said:
> You don't have to have the big fat Mozilla root cert bundle on your
> machines. Some OSes "ship" with an empty /etc/ssl, nobody tells you who
> you trust.
And for those OS's (who are they, anyhow) that ship empty bundles,
how many CAs do yo
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 22:01:47 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> If I have a thawte cert for valdis.com on host A and one from comodo
> on host B... which is the right one?
You wouldn't have 2 certs for that... I'd have *one* cert for that. And if when
you got to the IP address you were trying to reac
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:12:43 -, "Dobbins, Roland" said:
> This contradicts my experience - I've repeatedly witnessed only a few mb/sec
> of 64-byte packets making software-based routers fall over, including just
> last
> month.
On the flip side, there's a *lot* of sites that have to make trad
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:31:59 +0200, Måns Nilsson said:
> Since you are from Sweden, and in an IT job, you probably have personal
> relations to someone who has personal relations to one of the swedes
> or other nationalities that were present at the key ceremonies for the
> root. Once you've estab
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:48:31 CDT, Jimmy Hess said:
> One thing.. the OP was asking about anyone using Vyatta for BGP.
> Using Vyatta for BGP doesn't necessarily mean the Vyatta unit is actually a
> device
> forwarding the packets... someone could be using it as a route server, or for
> otherwis
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:38:57 BST, Nick Hilliard said:
> Let's throw some figures around (ridiculously simplified): a company has a
> choice between a pair of $10k software routers or something like a pair of
> MX80s for $25k each. So, one solution costs $20k; the other $50k. $30k
> cost differe
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:29:30 +0200, Tei said:
> He, I just want to self-sign my CERT's and remove the ugly warning that
> browsers shows. I don't want to pay 1000$ a year, or 1$ a year for that. I
The warning is there for a *reason* - namely that if you have a self-signed
cert, a first time visito
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:44:10 CDT, "N. Max Pierson" said:
> Define Cisco in your context please. Cisco marketing?? Cisco sales?? Cisco
> TAC? Cisco product development??
Cisco outsourced PR campaign? Wouldn't be the first time a company has hired a
shop, stuck a link to the result on their home pa
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:36:42 -, Leigh Porter said:
> I'm looking forward to the awful experience of NAT444 promoting IPv6.
In NAT444, no one can hear you scream
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:01:33 +0200, Meftah Tayeb said:
> Good thinking mike
> i do have a VoIp carrier single homed with Cogent.
> any solution?
Sure. Make sure you have alternate plans for when Cogent gets into another
peering tiff. Not *if*, but *when*. And you probably want to have a long,
d
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:42:18 -, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com said:
> Configure Quagga w/ the obtained ASN and announce the IP prefix(es).
> TaDa ... You are an ISP!
Now all you need is a business plan that pays for the rack space. ;)
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:17:57 PDT, Cameron Byrne said:
> Call me optimistic but ipv6 does not have these issues...
>
> For anyone making STRATEGIC choices about ipv4 investments... beware of
> sharks in these waters, not just the cgn pains
For many of us (especiially the ones who have ipv6 d
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:57:55 EDT, Nick Olsen said:
> Takes our HE tunnel to get out. Were also Native with Cogent (Not that it
> gets us anything..)
>
> No dice.
wget throws a timeout from here too, from the internet2 side.
% traceroute6 -A www.charter.com
traceroute to www.charter.com (2607:f
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:32:04 +0200, Randy Bush said:
> you left out one connection via a chevy full of hollerith cards and the
> second a canoe full of 7 track tape in waterproof containers.
Does anybody actually *have* a functional 7 track drive? I remember seeing a
story on PBS (may have been
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:59:00 EDT, harbor235 said:
> Curious if anyone out there is acting as an independent contractor,
> consultant, or small business,
> if so do you use professional liability insurance?
I don't consult myself, but is *anybody* crazy enough to do consulting
in the litigation-cr
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:13:57 EDT, Dorn Hetzel said:
> "full time connection to two or more providers" should be satisfied when the
> network involved has (or has contracted for and will have) two or more
> connections that are diverse from each other at ANY point in their path
> between the end net
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:55:04 EDT, Chuck Church said:
> Can we take this offline? I don't believe livestock behavior patterns have
> much operational content.
What's the mathematical difference between modelling a sheep
stampede and modelling a slashdotting? The word is "sheeple" for
a reason...
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:51:59 +0200, Pradeep Bangera said:
> Malayter in his earlier message. Hence I am wondering, whether the
> pricing should be a linear(CDR*[95th peak]) or sub-linear (like the
> above)?
Yes. :)
I think you'll find actual contracts out in the wild that do it either way, and
p
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:36:51 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> I'm curious, is there some belief that the use of hte nxdomain
> hijacking/rewriting is actually of use to 'users' ?
"of use to users" is, in general, incompatible with "race to the bottom".
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:27:00 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> > I would rather see DNSSEC and TLS/HTTPS get implemented end to end.
>
> how does tls/https help here? if you get sent to the 'wrong host'
> whether or not it does https/tls is irrel
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:20:25 EDT, William Allen Simpson said:
> It's not legal for an ISP to modify computer data. Especially
> digitally signed data. That's a criminal offense.
Citation?
Hint - a *big* chunk of ISPs have NAT deployed, and that's messing with packet
headers. Much as many of u
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:09:03 PDT, Owen DeLong said:
> No, it isn't because it requires you to send the domain portion of the URL
> in clear text and it may be that you don't necessarily want to disclose even
> that much information about your browsing to the public.
If that's an actual concern, I
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:43:49 +0530, Glen Kent said:
> Any idea why these connections are established (with facebook and
> akamaitechnologies) and how i can kill them? Since my laptop has
> several connections open with facebook, what kind of information is
> flowing there?
Probably you visited oth
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 04:14:39 -, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com said:
> > Tell me how that flys with the customers in your household...
>
> They are freeloaders, not customers. If they -PAID-
> for service, then it would be a different conversation.
Time to cue up "Move it on over"
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 08:38:36 PDT, Michael Thomas said:
> I'm not sure why lack of TLS is considered to be problem with Facebook.
> The man in the middle is the other side of the connection, tls or otherwise.
Ooh.. subtle. :)
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 17:30:37 EDT, Todd Underwood said:
> 2) can any root server operator who serves data inside of china verify
> that the data that they serve have not been rewritten by the great
> firewall?
DNSSEC should help this issue dramatically. This however could be problematic
if the Ch
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:08:35 PDT, Leo Bicknell said:
> ISC has verified our PEK2 route was being leaked further than
> intended, and for the moment we have pulled the route until we can
> get confirmation from our partners that the problem has been resolved.
So Leo - you don't have to give us a f
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:29:43 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian said:
> 120K domains - basically cnnic seems to have finally got tired of russian
No, I think Randy was referring to this sort of thing:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/18/fed_domain_seizure_slammed/
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:07:02 PDT, Leo Bicknell said:
> If we went back to hosts.txt this pesky DNS infrastructure would
> be totally unnecessary.
You're just saying that because you're hoping your employer will
get to sell bandwidth to SRI-NIC.ARPA ;)
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 05:40:39 -1000, Paul Graydon said:
> Which I do. But note the original complaint was not about using
> ridiculously long disclaimers on a mailing list, it was about the
> ridiculously long disclaimer, full stop.
If your corporate policy insists on huge disclaimers regarding
On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:43:00 EDT, Rich Kulawiec said:
> I'd like to see it made list policy that anyone posting with such an
> appended threat be given exactly what they're demanding -- i.e.,
> unsubscribed immediately and permanently.
Every once in a while, I reply back and remind the person with
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:44:12 EDT, Randy Bush said:
> o no hotel believe that we'll actually be significantly high use.
> they simply can not conceive of it. ietf, apricot, ... have
> seen this time and time again
To be fair, that's not a hotel-only problem. We've seen that problem w
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:04:07 EDT, James M Keller said:
> On 10/10/2011 11:01 AM, James M Keller wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I'm looking for some mailing list recommendations for wifi operations
> > community, any commendations?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> Besides a proofreader :)
No, commendation
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:47:13 PDT, "andrew.wallace" said:
> Guys the outage has moved to U.S and Canada, I think we need to look at this
> perhaps being sabotage.
It ain't sabotage till you rule out "misconfigured router".
Consider the actual real-world threat models and their likelyhoods:
1) In
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:52:02 CDT, -Hammer- said:
> What kills me is what they have told the public. The lost a "core
> switch". I don't know if they actually mean network switch or not but
> I'm pretty sure any of us that work on an enterprise environment know
> how to factor N+1 just for these
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:39:13 EDT, John Peach said:
> not really, given that he is not the sender, the mailing list is
We want to get pedantic, who generated the Message-ID: for the
mail in question? ;)
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 10:06:10 EDT, "William F. Maton Sotomayor" said:
> A similar thing was done at a USENIX in Monterey over a decade ago. The
> point behind that one was to drive home how bad it was for the attendees
> to use telnet to their boxes at the mothership. Nothing like seeing
> peo
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:21:27 +0800, "Nathanael C. Cariaga" said:
> Thanks for the prompt response. Actually our requirement is to find a
> webhosting provider whose routes are widely advertised locally and
> regionally.
That's different from who the provider peers with. We (AS1312) don't
peer
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:39:51 CDT, Jack Bates said:
> On 10/20/2011 4:03 PM, Ryan Rawdon wrote:
> > "You should expect.1 to respond to ping and such, but not 2 > prefix>.0 as that is only capable of representing a subnet and not a network
> > interface of any kind, or any machine, at all"
> Honestl
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:35:31 PDT, Owen DeLong said:
> If they are using someone else's mail server for outbound, how, exactly do
> you control
> whether or not they use AUTH in the process?
1) You don't even really *care* if they do or not, because...
2) if some other site is running with an un
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -, Brian Johnson said:
> It is interesting that some people who fully understand that the Internet is
> composed of many networks run by people with different interests can say what
> is best for the Internet as a whole. How my organization (or yours or anybody
> e
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:22 -, Brian Johnson said:
> So... I'm in complete agreement with your statement, but The Wikipedia
> reference is not pertinent.
So I point out the tragedy of the commons, you agree with it, but the Wikipedia
reference that talks about the same exact thing isn't pert
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:44:16 EDT, William Herrin said:
> For our purpose, describing the Internet as a commons fundamentally
> misunderstands its nature.
You *do* realize that for all your nice "Thei Internet Is Not A Commons"
ranting, the basic problem is that some people (we'll call them spamme
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:09:19 CST, Robert Bonomi said:
> You're missing some 'obvious' considerations. Consider a spam complaint
> sent with 'full headers' included. The rDNS _at_the_time_of_the_crime_
> is present in the complaint.
And if the rDNS isn't provided, any sane MTA will have included
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:21:37 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer said:
> I disagree. The official bug statement from Juniper in August was
> trying very hard to downplay the importance of the bug ("Given the
> complexity of conditions required to trigger this issue, the
> probability of exploiting this defe
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