virtual aggregation in IETF

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Francis
Gang, I have submitted an internet-draft to the IDR group on virtual aggregation (VA) (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-francis-idr-intra-va-00.txt). This draft suggests a few changes to routers that allow operators to control the size of their FIBs, shrinking them by 5x or 10x quite easi

RE: virtual aggregation in IETF

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Francis
remind me? PF > -Original Message- > From: Alain Durand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:13 AM > To: Paul Francis; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: virtual aggregation in IETF > > Paul, > > Can this proposal be applied to IS-IS (or other

RE: virtual aggregation in IETF

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Francis
So, if I get you right, you are saying that edge routers have fewer CPU requirements, and so ISPs can get away with software routers and don't care about FIB. At the same time, folks in the middle are saying that in any event they need to buy high-end routers, and so can afford to buy enough hardw

RE: virtual aggregation in IETF

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Francis
IB growth would be welcome by many. PF > -Original Message- > From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:23 PM > To: Paul Francis > Cc: Adrian Chadd; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: virtual aggregation in IETF > > Paul Francis wro

RE: why not AS number based prefixes aggregation

2008-09-08 Thread Paul Francis
This thread begs an interesting question: what is the right amount of granularity for load balance? Folks here are saying that one-entry-per-AS is too course...an AS wants to influence load on incoming links, and so it needs multiple entries. On the other hand, it is hard to imagine that we nee

RE: why not AS number based prefixes aggregation

2008-09-09 Thread Paul Francis
inal Message- > From: Jean-François Mezei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:21 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: why not AS number based prefixes aggregation > > Paul Francis wrote: > > > AS, or even dozens. So I'm curious