Re: Passive Wave Primer

2020-10-13 Thread Dave Cohen
signal that is framed as OTN, not LAN PHY or WAN PHY. For the record, the OP’s query about passive wave would suggest PON/GPON or similar low-power CWDM for short-haul use, and not spectrum or alien wave, both of which are decidedly non-passive. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Oct 13, 2

Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-16 Thread Dave Cohen
ing to be a > signifier of seriousness on the part of an ISP, I suppose depends on what > sort of customers they are, and their relative degree of technical > sophistication. > > Are the days of such an environment gone forever? > > > > -- - Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com @dCoSays www.venicesunlight.com

Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions

2020-06-08 Thread Dave Cohen
Northeast that leverage this technology, at least on some portion of their fiber plants. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Jun 8, 2020, at 5:40 PM, James Jun wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 08, 2020 at 08:10:44PM +, Mel Beckman wrote: >> >> I???m not talking about a full-

Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions

2020-06-09 Thread Dave Cohen
provider’s control. For many of you consuming a dark fiber service today, this is the approach being used, so there’s no provider hardware touching your glass and certainly no lambda for your gear to contend with avoiding. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Jun 8, 2020, at 10:55 PM,

Re: 60 ms cross-continent

2020-06-20 Thread Dave Cohen
everybody else there’s not enough money in the difference between 46 and 59 ms for someone to go invest in that type of deployment. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Tim Durack wrote: > >  > And of course in your more realistic example: > > 27

Re: Identifying submarine links via traceroute

2021-09-29 Thread Dave Cohen
, from an > operational perspective. You may be able to come up with a semi-automatic > mechanism to measure this, but I fear without deliberate and consistent > human intervention, the data could get stale very quickly. > > Mark. > -- - Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com @dCoSays www.venicesunlight.com

Re: Long hops on international paths

2022-01-17 Thread Dave Cohen
gear in order to meet specific performance needs, this is unlikely to be seen in the network of a Tier 1 or similarly scaled network. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Jan 17, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > >  > > >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:31

Re: Flapping Transport

2023-08-01 Thread Dave Cohen
tionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- - Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com

Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup

2023-08-28 Thread Dave Cohen
*"Mark Tinka" >> *To: *"Mike Hammett" >> *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org >> *Sent: *Sunday, August 27, 2023 10:33:07 PM >> *Subject: *Re: MX204 Virtual Chassis Setup >> >> >> >> On 8/28/23 03:05, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> Well,

Re: Lossy cogent p2p experiences?

2023-09-09 Thread Dave Cohen
am not intimately aware of any hashing concerns for LAG's that > traverse multiple line cards in the same chassis. > > Mark. > -- - Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com @dCoSays www.venicesunlight.com

Re: Zayo woes

2023-09-19 Thread Dave Cohen
To that point, the new management team seems really interested in the managed services game (the QoS acquisition also falls into this vain) and I wonder the extent to which that whipsawing of attention is already piling on to what was already a lackluster customer service organization before they t

Re: What's the meaning of virtual POP ?

2016-08-24 Thread Dave Cohen
The key is really that it could mean different things for different providers, although I would agree that the gist is that the location is enabled to look and feel like a POP without the provider installing the full complement of requisite hardware. A provider I worked at in the past, for examp

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Dave Cohen
oach to DWDM from other vendors at the time. I, for the life of me, > cannot remember their name - but I do know that Randy introduced them to > me back then. Maybe he can remember :-). Not sure if they are still in > business. > > Mark. > > > -- - Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com @dCoSays www.venicesunlight.com

Re: [NNagain] transit and peering costs projections

2023-10-14 Thread Dave Cohen
view) and has really been more about a relatively stable set of IX participants creating more resiliency and driving other performance improvements in that leg of the peering ecosystem. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Oct 14, 2023, at 7:02 PM, Dave Taht via Nnagain > wrote: > &g

Re: "Lit" Buildings

2023-12-07 Thread Dave Cohen
I’ve had experience with a few (wireline) organizations that did this and I don’t think there is a consist answer to your question, so this is definitely a YMMV situation.The best I can summarize:- There was always some degree of obfuscation of the fiber plant even relative to what we shared with c

Re: constant FEC errors juniper mpc10e 400g

2024-04-20 Thread Dave Cohen
markets, I see OTN requests as winnowing here as well. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Apr 20, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 4/20/24 13:39, Saku Ytti wrote: >> >> >> Oh I don't think OTN or WAN-PHY have any large deployment futur

Re: Alien Waves

2024-05-12 Thread Dave Cohen
of operational success working with them. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On May 12, 2024, at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > What are your experiences with alien waves, managed spectrum, spectrum as a > service, etc? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intellig

Re: Alien Waves

2024-05-12 Thread Dave Cohen
being shot across a Ciena 6500 or a Dave’s Box-o’-Lasers 1000. Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On May 12, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 5/12/24 20:35, Dave Cohen wrote: >> It’s one of those things that makes a lot more sense on paper than in >&

Re: Alien Waves

2024-05-12 Thread Dave Cohen
CLEC wavelength providers in North America On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:34 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 5/13/24 00:11, Dave Cohen wrote: > > Mark, > > Many/all of these points are fair. My experience is purely terrestrial and > obviously both the capacity and economic calcula

Re: Alien Waves

2024-05-12 Thread Dave Cohen
ir footprint. > I swore others did, but I couldn't find them. Does anyone know who else in > the NANOG area who does this? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > &g

Re: US/Canada International border concerns for routing

2017-08-08 Thread Dave Cohen
not really much else outside that, but there are plenty of routes that don't cross the border if you don't have to jump networks to your destination, for example going to an AWS on ramp in Canada using a native partner network, especially in the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal. Dave Cohen c

Re: US/Canada International border concerns for routing

2017-08-09 Thread Dave Cohen
"local" traffic (e.g. traffic originating on the Neo AS staying in France, etc.). Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com > On Aug 8, 2017, at 10:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > It is worth noting, however, that the former AllStream ASN (formerly AT&T > Canada) AS15290 is

Re: Standard terminology for a dark fiber path?

2016-02-25 Thread Dave Cohen
t; thanks, > > Fletcher > > > > -- > > Fletcher Kittredge > > GWI > > 8 Pomerleau Street > > Biddeford, ME 04005-9457 > > 207-602-1134 > > > > -- > > "Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors > into trouble of all kinds." > -- Samuel Butler > -- - Dave Cohen eM: craetd...@gmail.com AIM: dCo says

Re: AWS Direct Connect - Peering VPCs to Tier 1's and MPLS

2016-03-01 Thread Dave Cohen
t; > > -- > > Jay R. Ashworth Baylink > > j...@baylink.com > > Designer The Things I Think RFC > > 2100 > > Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land > > Rover DII > > St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 > > 1274 > > > > > > -- > Michael O'Connor > ESnet Network Engineering > m...@es.net > 631 344-7410 > > -- - Dave Cohen eM: craetd...@gmail.com AIM: dCo says

Re: IEEE MACsec

2024-10-22 Thread Dave Cohen
proven technology and works well we are still seeing > > innovation/improvements. > > It is also now shipping in coherent pluggables as a native feature. > > Mark. > > -- - Dave Cohen craetd...@gmail.com @dCoSays www.venicesunlight.com