Re: Most energy efficient (home) setup

>> And silent memory corruption can make its way to the filesystem, or >> applications' internal saved data structures (such as the contents >> of a VM's registry database). > Since we don't hear about Mac mini server users screaming about how > their servers are constantly crashing, the severi

Re: Wacky Weekend: The '.secure' gTLD

No. Let's go the opposite direction and make DNS a decentralized trust model. :) > Digress.

Re: very confusing.

Don't get me wrong, I greatly dislike spam, but next thing you know it will be against the law to send packets to someone you don't have consent from... or hand out pamphlets / talk to someone on the street you don't have consent from... I figure the solution here that fits with the best interests

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

nger pointing.I find that this usually ends up saving more monies from headaches / lack of work than the actual cost of the materials and "installation". charles > > > -Original Message- > From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] > Sent: Tuesday

Re: Facebook down?

W. PA. too. Looks pretty widespread. On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM, aUser wrote: > Appears to be in Oregon, Southern Oregon. Mobile too. > > Sent from my iPhone 5S. > > > On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Marshall Eubanks < > marshall.euba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This message has no content.

Re: RADB

se is out there. charles On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Brandon Wade wrote: > Hi, > > I really don't know where else to post this. I recently subscribed to RADB > and added route objects and route6 objects for our prefixes we announce. Of > course an aut-num object was created and

Re: RADB

Take a look: https://www.arin.net/resources/routing/ charles On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Brandon Wade wrote: > > >>> For a newbie, how does one go about learning the basic's of IRRd. > > That pretty much sums it up. I feel like I'm stuck reading RFC'

Re: Craigslist hacked?

Not seeing that here The local site and the general http;// www.craigslist.org both look to be going to the correct site. On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Brian Henson wrote: > Is anyone else seeing their local craigslist redirected to another site > other than craigslist? I see it loading htt

Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house

In the US at least you have to authenticate with your Comcast credentials and not like a traditional open wifi where you can just make up an email and accept the terms of service. I also understand that it is a different IP than the subscriber. Based on this the subscriber should be protected fro

Verizon FiOS contact?

FiOS as well but it seems they can't reach anyone at VZ who will engage on this. They claim each user must file a repair request with VZ. We are encouraging our users to do so but I'm not holding my breath. Cheers, -- Charles Gagnon charlesg at unixrealm.com

Fw: new message

Hey! New message, please read <http://brynstevenson.com/unless.php?bp> Mills Charles

Re: Nat

> > We need to make IPv4 painful to use. Adding delay between SYN and > SYN/ACK would > be one way to achieve this. Start at 100ms..200ms and increase it by > 100ms each year. It seems like NAT would be another way to make IPv4 more painful to use.

Re: Small IX IP Blocks

s space specifically reserved for the use by IXPs. charles On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Okay, so I decided to look at what current IXes are doing. > > It looks like AMS-IX, Equinix and Coresite as well as some of the smaller > IXes are all using /64s for thei

RE: IP DSCP across the Internet

I presume nothing is honored. I just encapsulate everything if I'm crossing networks outside my corporate WAN. Amazing how handy openvpn with no crypto is. :) -Original Message- From: "Mark Tinka" Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2015 12:39 AM To: "Ramy Hashish" ; "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: IP DSCP

RE: IP DSCP across the Internet

I presume nothing is honored. I just encapsulate everything if I'm crossing networks outside my corporate WAN. Amazing how handy openvpn with no crypto is. :) -Original Message- From: "Mark Tinka" Sent: ‎5/‎6/‎2015 12:39 AM To: "Ramy Hashish" ; "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: IP DSCP

Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix

spect to Dallas, I would suggest looking at bigger picture and see if your assumptions still hold true. charles

Re: chargen is the new DDoS tool?

ate use of >chargen/udp these days? Fortunately I can't, so we're going to drop >19/udp at the border within the next hours. > >Regards, >Bernhard -- Charles Wyble char...@knownelement.com / 818 280 7059 CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org)

Re: Prism continued

egrep -v 'term1|term2|term3'" >> or "cat /var/log/router.log | egrep -v 'term1|term2|term3' | less" >> >> >> ;-) >> scott >> >> -- Charles Wyble char...@knownelement.com / 818 280 7059 CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org)

Re: Prism continued

n source route. > >http://logstash.net/ > >-- >Chip Marshall >http://2bithacker.net/ -- Charles Wyble char...@knownelement.com / 818 280 7059 CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org)

Re: Need help in flushing DNS

I have domains that are *not* expired, which are being affected by this. Domains are hosted via Dynect, and are resolving into this 204.11.56.0/24 range across the globe. Dynect management portal was down until minutes ago as well. - Charles On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:45 AM, David Conrad wrote

Re: 100G wave pricing in Pennsylvania

It's a big state. Which part? Pittsburgh, Philadelphia or some point in between? On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Edward Roels wrote: > I'm looking for rough pricing or even carriers that can provide a 100G wave > in Pennsylvania. > > If you have some insight into how pricing scales between 10

RE: Quest route server

Try: http://stat.qwest.net/looking_glass.html Chuck Charles L. Mills Senior Network Engineer Access Data Corporation / Pittsburgh, PA 15238 (412) 968-4024 FAX: (412) 967-9504 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.accessdc.com Hosting, Colocation, D-R and Managed Services

iabelle francois

http://www.os-bc.de/home.php -- Charles Morris cmor...@cs.odu.edu, cmor...@occs.odu.edu Network Security Administrator, Software Developer Office of Computing and Communications Services, CS Systems Group Old Dominion University http://www.cs.odu.edu/~cmorris

Re: Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?

I think he was actually quoting the movie. They always called Harvey Korman's character "Hedy" and he'd always correct them with "That's Hedley" in a most disapproving tone. You had to have watched that movie way too many times (much to my wife's chagrin) to catch the subtle joke. On Thu, Apr 22,

Starting up a WiMAX ISP

the core and towers? Also do you have any suggestions on where I can find suppliers and service vendors in this field? Networks are my passion and am willing to dig in, but I need some direction. Thanks for you help an insight. Charles Bronson

Re: Starting up a WiMAX ISP

table. Once I have those numbers I can beat the pavement and find out what people will pay for my service and then I will know based on my table if there is a snowball's chance in hell of this working. Charles Bronson From: Brandon Kim To: pa

Re: Starting up a WiMAX ISP

That is a good idea. I would definitely be interested in working with the right people to extend their service as opposed to reinventing the wheel unless I don't like the wheel they invented. Charles Bronson - Original Message From: John Levine To: nanog@nanog.org Cc: pa

Re: thoughts?

2 I'm not sure what these "IP Addresses" are that they speak of. But can't we have the government just print more? Charles Bronson

Cogent issues

Anyone notice any issues with Cogent? Internet Health Report showing some high latency to Verizon and a couple of other carriers.

Re: Cogent issues

ough the NY area. > > > > On 09/08/2010 10:34 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > >> Anyone notice any issues with Cogent? >> >> Internet Health Report showing some high latency to Verizon and a couple >> of >> other carriers. >> >> > > >

Re: XO Routing

The internet health report is showing high latency to most of their peers. Chuck. On Sep 16, 2010 11:57 AM, "Stefan Molnar" wrote: > > Anyone know the impact on the XO Routing/Peering that is happening right > now? We have had spotty connectivity for the last hour. > > Stefan >

Re: RIP Justification

ncorrect > > forum for such questions. > > RIP has one property no "modern" protocol has. It works on simplex links > (e.g. high-speed satellite downlink with low-speed terrestrial uplink). > > Is that useful? I don't know, but it is still a fact. > > --

Re: Is everyone getting the shimizuhar...@yahoogroups.jp ugliness?

Yes. I'm getting that as well. It's appending weird characters onto every message. I'm getting many messages in duplicate (with and without the characters). Though this message I only received once and without the characters. It appears threads started yesterday are affected. Jack Bates wrote

Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

the OLP product set you would be able to obtain as much address space as you can reasonably justify (as is with most commercial product offerings). charles

Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

([*] according to the wiki, firewire and zigbee are the only things using EUI-64. I don't know of anyone using firewire as a network backbone. (obviously, not that you care.) Zigbee is relatively new and similar to bluetooth; will people use them as a NIC or connect little zigbee gadgets t

EVDO followup

So I found an article about updating the EVDO modem PRL in Linux (or I should say via a standard AT method) http://kenkinder.com/using-verizon-wireless-evdo-pc5740-and-linux/ I'll let folks know how it goes.

Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

Ricky Beam wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:28:25 -0400, Charles Wyble wrote: Utility companies utilize Zigbee pretty extensively. So that's millions and millions of addresses right there. But does the entire planet need to talk to those critters? No. Nor should they even be ab

Re: DHCPv6 PD chains vs bridging

David W. Hankins wrote: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 04:22:04PM -0400, Paul Timmins wrote: Sorry for the top post, but as a crazy thought here, why not throw out an RA, and if answered, go into transparent bridge mode? Let the sophisticated users who want routed behavior override it manually. Cu

Re: two interfaces one subnet

What does two interfaces in one subnet mean? Two NICs? Or virtual interfaces? Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009, Chris Meidinger wrote: I've been looking through RFC's trying to find a clear statement that having two interfaces in the same subnet does not work, but can't find i

Re: Geo Location and DNS

Check the archives. This gets discussed on a regular basis. Both google and akami have methods in place for this to be corrected. Clue Store wrote: Hi All, I am having a hell of a time trying to figure out who it is I need to contact to get this fixed. I just got a new /21 allocation from ARIN a

Fiber cut - response in seconds?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/30/AR2009053002114_pf.html Not sure if I fully believe the article. Responding to a fiber cut in seconds? I suppose it's possible if $TLA had people monitoring the construction from across the street, and they were in communication

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

Joel Jaeggli wrote: It's pretty trivial if know where all the construction projects on your path are... How so? Setup OTDR traces and watch them? I've seen this happen on a university campus several times. no black helicopters were involved. Care to expand on the methodology used? A camp

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

Joel Jaeggli wrote: Charles Wyble wrote: Joel Jaeggli wrote: It's pretty trivial if know where all the construction projects on your path are... How so? Setup OTDR traces and watch them? When you lose link on every pair in a bundle, but don't lose any of the buildings you'

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

I do feel this might be the last post from Mr Pooser. :) Your on to them it seems. ;) A very interesting idea. I imagine it wouldn't be hard for foreign actors to get access to the data feed of construction, observe for signs of a cut and then splice in a tap. Though wouldn't that tap be fo

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

Cheaper? To quote sneakers were the united states govt. we don't do that sort of thing. Martin Hannigan wrote: It would also be cheaper to add an additional layer of security with encryption vs. roving teams of gun toting manhole watchers. YMMV, Best! Marty On 6/2/09, Deepak Jain w

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

David Barak wrote: Encryption is insufficient - if you let someone have physical access for a long enough period, they'll eventually crack anything. Really? I don't think so. I imagine it would be much more dependent on the amount of computing power the attacker has access to. More encrypted

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

David Barak wrote: Paranoia 101 teaches us that any given encryption approach will eventually fall before a brute-force onslaught of sufficient power and duration[1]. Of course. Hence my comment bout the likely hood of success depending on how much computing power they have access to. How

Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

Sounds like a lot of work to me. Wouldn't it be easier to just find the carrier neutral colo facilities where all the peering/transit between major networks happens, and pay them money to put up a fake wall that you can colo your optical taps behind? Yeah it's not like that's ever gonna h

3fn shutdown

What do folks think? How were they shutdown? AS stopped from announcing? Physical power? http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html

IPTV List serv

I know someone was asking about a VOIP list serv the other day. Well IPTV is another big area that could use a list. Check out https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/iptv-users/

Re: Cogent input - no peering with Global Crossing in Europe [Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 17, Issue 46]

Ouch... latency must be awful. I suppose this is based on Cogents reputation but who knows. The whole peering aspect of the networking business is often a mystery. AKK wrote: My main concern for European Cogent users is - no European peering with global crossing - traffic goes via NY JFK. I

Re: Wireless bridge

Might I suggest Ubnt.com ? Or a vendor that I use http://www.wlanparts.com/category/ubiquiti/ Couple of these http://www.wlanparts.com/product/BULLET2-D13/Ubiquiti_BULLET2_and_13dBi_24GHz_Panel_Antenna__BULLET2D13.html (100.00 per side or so). Peter Boone wrote: Hi NANOG, I'm lookin

Re: Wireless bridge

+1 for Ubnt gear! Joel Jaeggli wrote: Pair of Ubuquiti power station 2 or 5 bridges, 5 would be preferable, under $200 per end. http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ps5_datasheet.pdf Peter Boone wrote:

Re: Wireless bridge

2.4 and 5GHz license-free Wifi is license free because the frequencies are shared with the ISM (Industrial/Scientific/Medical) services. In an industrial area, competing WiFi is the least of your worries. These frequencies are also used by industrial grade heating units. Got anyone in the neigh

Re: WISP NMS recommendations

This list is quite active: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless +1 for Wispa. Several knowledgeable people on there, and it's quite active. Lately both NANOG and WISPA have had very high signal. Hopefully it keeps up! :)

Re: Is your ISP blocking outgoing port 25?

Zhiyun Qian wrote: It has been long heard that many ISPs block outgoing port 25 for the purpose of reducing spam originated from their network. Well blocking or redirecting to there servers, which have an undocumented filtering policy. All one needs to do in order to bypass that is use a

Re: Is your ISP blocking outgoing port 25?

Do you provide your users an SMTP server to use, with some out bound spam filtering? It would seem this is to be expected, as you don't want your IP ranges showing up on RBL filters. Do you force SSL connectivity like AT&T does? Paul Stewart wrote: We still do it and never get any complaint

Re: tor

This is rapidly heading off topic, and I imagine the MLC will be stepping in shortly. :)

Re: Looking for Security / Operational Contact at New York Times

They don't have a 24/7 NOC? Stasiniewicz, Adam wrote: Yup, I have already tried, but it is fairly late in NY. So I was hoping to catch someone tonight, instead of waiting until tomorrow morning when someone cluefull would answer the phone / process online contact forms. -Original Message

Re: Nanog Webcast Equipment

You can reply off-list if you wish. Would love to see replies and/or summary on list if possible. It's a somewhat complex problem, and there are many solutions out there. Having feedback on what was used and any feedback on it would be great!

Re: Possible outage in Camarillo, CA USA

Chaim Rieger wrote: Matthew Black wrote: A colleague reports that Verizon and ATT have a cut cable in Camarillo, CA, in the vacinity of Lewis Road and Dawson. Anyone have more information on this outage? Thanks. confirmed outage CalTrans went through an major fiber line, landlines, T1, Cell

Re: Possible outage in Camarillo, CA USA

Chaim Rieger wrote: CalTrans went through an major fiber line, What's your source for CalTrans being the culprit?

Re: Level 3

So. where is all this talent going? NTT? AT&T? Verizon? Dare I say it cogent? :) Also has anyone filed complaints with the FTC or DOJ? Jason LeBlanc wrote: To boot almost all the original Telcove crew we had are gone. They're losing the better people through attrition as they're frus

Request for contact and procedure information

All, I'm currently experiencing a DDOS attack on my home DSL connection. Thousands of requests to port 80. I'm on an SBC business class account. I'm guessing that calling the regular customer support won't get me anywhere. Any suggestions?

Re: Request for contact and procedure information

I have a static range. :( Mark Price wrote: Turn off your DSL modem for awhile, and hope for a new dynamic IP? Mark

Re: Request for contact and procedure information

I did. Still getting pounded. John Peach wrote: Turn off whatever you have listening on port 80. On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:25:48 -0400 Mark Price wrote: Turn off your DSL modem for awhile, and hope for a new dynamic IP? Mark On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: All, I&#

Re: Request for contact and procedure information

I spoke with SBC. 2 hours on the phone (all with US based support which was awesome) came down to e-mail ab...@sbcglobal.net. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

DDOS Followup

I had a pleasant chat with tier 2 support and they changed my IP range. All is now well. Thanks to all who replied.

Re: Visio diag automations

This is built into visio. You can link a drawing to an access database. I did that a few years back. For all the desktops and servers. Right click on the icon pulled up all the data. Did layers... had the network jacks, furniture, computers, printers... everything. Peter Hicks wrote: Bo

Re: Visio diag automations

e the same where a CMDB system was the data source? Rgds, GSH --Original Message-- From: Charles Wyble To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Visio diag automations Sent: Jul 19, 2009 17:49 This is built into visio. You can link a drawing to an access database. I did that a few years back. Fo

Seeking facilities managers at colo facilities

tails available upon request, serious responses only. Thanks. Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com

Re: Open Source / Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

I would disagree; nagios is not limited to small systems... We're currently monitoring about 8500 services on 2834 routers with nagios quite successfully and have been doing so for nearly a decade now -- we started with Netsaint. With custom scripts receiving data from our inventory managemen

Re: Recommendations for Hong Kong datacenter, and a sanity check for my geopolitical conclusions ?

Yes, thank you - that was the datacenter I had read about in my own research. What did you think of the height of that building and its location on reclaimed sea land ? It makes me nervous, but as I said in a different message in this thread, it looks like ALL of urban HK is reclaimed s

XO - a Tier 1 or not?

Trying to sort through the marketecture and salesman speak and get a definitive answer. I figure the NANOGers would be able to give me some input. Is XO Communications a Tier 1 ISP? I'd say no based on all research and googling that I've done but they seem to meet some of the criteria (some != a

Re: OT: Voice Operators' Group forming

Hiers, David wrote: Hi NANOG, I'd like to announce the formation of a NANOG-knockoff group for voice operators, the Voice Operators' Group. Very cool! :) Voice network operators share many of the same challenges as IP network operators; we register with registrars (CILLI, OCN, and ACNA a

Re: OT: Voice Operators' Group forming

jamie wrote: puck.nether.net . Right. That's what I meant. way to volunteer someone else's box :-) Good point. My apologies. Google groups then. :)

Re: Network Ring

The power of google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_Automatic_Protection_Switching > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no > > What is EAPS? >

Re: Intelligent network monitoring systems (commercial/open source, what have you)

Most of these threads usually result in telling the poster to RTFM with a link to it :) I'm too lazy to link the manual. :) c-nsp has extensive archives with lots of questions about various specific SNMP mibs that weren't immediately evident from RTFM. It all comes down to SNMP to the best of

Re: Intelligent network monitoring systems (commercial/open source, what have you)

Drew Weaver wrote: Ah, I was mainly interested in an Orion like system that actually has all of that kind of worked-in. Yeah I got that. I am not aware of anything that does that. Not to say it doesn't exist, but if it does it's somewhat well hidden. http://www.frank4dd.com/howto/nagios/c

Re: Intelligent network monitoring systems (commercial/open source, what have you)

We use Cacti for this purpose, but it still requires creating custom datasources for the vendor-specific SNMP MIBs. +1 for cacti. I think pretty much everything requires bringing in the mibs and setting up mappings etc. I've used Nagios/Cacti/Ganglia/MRTG.

Re: cross connect reliability

Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 5:52 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Michael J McCafferty wrote: All, Today I had yet another cross-connect fail at our colo provider. From memory, this is the 6th cross-connect to fail while in service, in 4yrs and recently there was a bad SFP on

Re: SAS70 Type II compliant colo providers - Chicago, IL

Hmm...the ones I've been involved with have to go through an independent third party audit to ensure that they are compliant. The independent auditor has to agree that they're practices are secure and satisfies the credit card company's security objectives. If it were that loose you'd see a lot mo

Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering

Matt *note, however, that I also opted to stay in college in 1991, rather than join Cisco because I felt they did not have a workable business model; in 1995, I rejected Mosaic Communications, because the idea of trying to compete with a freely downloadable browser seemed like business suicide;

Re: DreamHost admin contacts

+1 for intermeida. I'm digging it. Though I've yet to find a way to turn off copying the originator of the e-mail when hitting reply all. Anyone know how to fix that? On 10/13/09 1:48 PM, Jeff Saxe wrote: Barring that, what recommendations might the NANOG community have for an extremely rock-

Re: DreamHost admin contacts

On 10/13/09 2:19 PM, Justin Shore wrote: Andy Ringsmuth wrote: Barring that, what recommendations might the NANOG community have for an extremely rock-solid e-mail hosting company? I realize that may mean self-promotion, but hey, bring it on. I would strongly recommend against GoDaddy's host

Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering]

On 10/14/09 8:11 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Typing less does not mean you are actually thinking. You should try the latter before your next pithy post. Or at least read the post to which you are replying. Now now boys and girls. Settle down and be civil. :)

Re: dealing with bogon spam ?

This is puzzling me. If it's from non-announced space, at some point some router should report no route to it. How is the TCP handshake performed to allow a sync to turn into spam? Chuck Chuck Church Network Planning Engineer, CCIE #8776 Harris Information Technology Services DOD Programs 121

Re: Redundant Data Center Architectures

On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote: On Oct 28, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Stefan Fouant wrote: I'm wondering what are the growing trends in connecting Data Centers for redundancy in DR/COOP environments. 'DR' is an obsolete 40-year-old mainframe concept; it never works, as fundin

Re: Failover how much complexity will it add?

On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:39 PM, a...@baklawasecrets.com wrote: So if my requirements are as follows: - BGP router capable of holding full Internet routing table. (whether I go for partial or full, I think I want something with full capability). - Capable of pushing 100meg plus of mixed tra

Re: Cisco interface - GB of transfer software

witch ports so I can monitor/bill against some hosting customers. I know we can create our own but looking to see if there was something that anyone is using and recommends. Thank you very much Dale Turner -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known El

RE: Cisco interface - GB of transfer software

Same here. I bill my customers on 95% percentile. I use Advent's Manageengine Netflow Analyzer -Original Message- From: Braun, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:19 PM To: Daniel Senie Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cisco interface - GB of transfer sof

RE: Help needed - Cisco Netflow

Lee, The question would be do you want a self contained appliance or a piece of software? I have used Advent Network's Net Flow Analyzer. There are others out there but I've had some decent amount of luck with these guys and they have an "Enterprise" license that will many, many (thousands?) i

RE: 3845 memory

Agree. Our 2821 with 2 full views running 12.4 mainline and 768MB ram has 427 free. So using 340 for OS and tables... Chuck -Original Message- From: Andrew Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:04 PM To: Alan Hetzel Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: 384

Telstra NOC

http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/images/media/photos/73764g2_hires.jpg

RE: What's with all the long aspaths?

Sounds like some automated scripts that didn't do any sanity checking. Process pulls the current BGP table, checks for the longest path, and then prepends the AS that many times to guarantee everyone takes the other path. But if two ISPs are doing this, well, the paths get longer and longer. I ju

Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts

ctly? Akamai are self declared peering sluts. So, yes, they have direct peering arrangements with Cogent. charles

Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts

71 ms 7.016 ms So, for at least for traceroute www.akamai.com, Coget is using their peer (Global Crossing) to reach Akamai transit provider.Guess I got caught up in the past myself, thinking "Cogent would never depeer a slut like Akamai". charles

Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage

Randy Bush wrote: if anyone is actually saying anything new here, please point it out. otherwise this seems like a lot of folk rehashing things from 1992 and every year since, trying to demonstrate how smart they are, which demonstrates how smart they are not. Not all of us have been on the

Re: Sending vs requesting. Was: Re: Sprint / Cogent

pulations etc? Are a few interruptions that affect a small subset of IP addresses and AS on the net really worth going through the effort to pass regulation around the world? If so, then let's take advantage of a long and rich history of reaching consensus (see the RFC process which I think has work pretty well) and hash out what we want to see. Otherwise let's move on. Charles

On the subject of multihoming

aps some sort of multihop BGP setup? I have done some research and found a lot of references to small site multihoming without BGP for link redundancy but not for traffic engineering. Thanks. Charles

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