Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 06:07, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > Not sure why you think FIB compression is a risk or will be a mess. It’s a > pretty straightforward task. Also people falsely assume that the parts they don't know about, are risk free and simple. While in reality there are tons of pr

Re: Discord contacts

2023-10-01 Thread Bryan Holloway
I don't know if this is related or not, but we've been working a strange issue with a Cloudflare-hosted site for weeks now, where some source IPs incur a 45-60 second delay on page-loads to a specific web-site, but other source IPs load instantaneously. We can't find a common denominator. We'v

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 8:04 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > Not sure why you think FIB compression is a risk or will be a mess. It’s a > pretty straightforward task. Hi Owen, There are multiple levels of FIB compression. The simplest version merely aggregates adjacent routes with the same ne

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:03 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 06:07, Owen DeLong via NANOG > wrote: > > > Not sure why you think FIB compression is a risk or will be a mess. It’s > a pretty straightforward task. > > Also people falsely assume that the parts they don't know about, are >

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread Seth David Schoen
Matthew Petach writes: > I would go a step further; for any system of compression hoping to gain a > net positive space savings, > Godel's incompleteness theorem guarantees that there is at least one input > to the system that will result in no space savings whatsoever. This is rather the Pigeonh

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 11:25 AM Seth David Schoen wrote: > Matthew Petach writes: > > > I would go a step further; for any system of compression hoping to gain a > > net positive space savings, > > Godel's incompleteness theorem guarantees that there is at least one > input > > to the system that

U.S. test of national alerts on Oct. 4 at 2:20pm EDT (1820 UTC)

2023-10-01 Thread Sean Donelan
This year's test of the U.S. national emergency alert includes something for ISPs and network operators. The wireless portion of the national test is scheduled 2 minutes (2:18pm EDT or 1818 UTC) before the main broadcast test at 2:20. Mobile phones usually receive the alert about a minute

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
Among the issues: Suppose the FIB has all the /24 components to make a /20, so it programs a /20. Then one of the /24's changes nexthop. It now has to undo all that compression by reinstalling some of the routes and figuring out the minimum set of /21, /22, /23, /24 to make it happen. Then to avoi

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 5:40 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG wrote: > Among the issues: > Suppose the FIB has all the /24 components to make a /20, so it programs a > /20. > Then one of the /24's changes nexthop. It now has to undo all that compression Yeah... all this stuff is on the same leve

Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-10-01 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
While I did allude to some of the complexity, my main point is that FIB compression does not allow you to install a FIB with less memory. Because you must be prepared for transients during which the FIB needs to store mostly uncompressed anyway. All it does is to increase convergence time. Kind Re