I've never understood companies that acquire and don't completely integrate as
quickly as they can.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Randy Carpenter"
To: "JASON BOTHE"
Cc: "nanog"
Anybody here have a contact for AS22697 (Roblox)? We seem to have had all of
our ranges blackholed with n...@roblox.com & i...@roblox.com being unresponsive.
Best,
Chase Lauer
AS397031
Recently reached out to Zayo and found out we have a new account manager, and
also discovered they were acquired by a company called ENA...
Bill
From: NANOG on behalf of
Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:19 AM
To: Randy Carpenter
Cc: nanog
Subj
The other way around. Zayo acquired ENA.
That acquisition seemed odd. ENA did a lot of value add and non-IP services.
Zayo seems to shed those on every acquisition.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 7:19AM Mike Hammett wrote:
> [...]
> I've never understood companies that acquire and don't completely
> integrate as quickly as they can.
>
Ah, spoken with the voice of someone who's never been in the position of:
a) acquiring a company not-much-smaller-than-you that
b)
I blame not the network nerds, but the management that put them in that
position.
The problem with C is that unless the networks *ARE* integrated quickly, the
synergies won't happen.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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As someone that has been planning to be in the acquiring seat for a while (but
yet to do one), I've consistently passed to the money people that there's the
purchase price and then there's the % on top of that for equipment,
contractors, etc. to integrate, improve, optimize future cashflow, etc.
Except they've acquired A LOT of companies running C and A LOT of companies
running J, you'd think they'd at least have the same process for the
similar setups, but they don't.
Shane
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:42 AM Matthew Petach
wrote:
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> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 7:19AM Mike Hammett wrote:
On 9/19/23 14:19, Mike Hammett wrote:
I've never understood companies that acquire and don't completely
integrate as quickly as they can.
Sometimes it does not add any material value to either network.
Sometimes it takes too long.
If the acquired company is orders of magnitude smaller tha
On 9/19/23 16:41, Matthew Petach wrote:
c) your executives have promised there will be cost savings after the
merger due to "synergies" between the two companies.
Couldn't have said the exact same words any better myself - "cost
savings from synergies" :-).
Always interesting when a year
On 9/19/23 16:48, Mike Hammett wrote:
As someone that has been planning to be in the acquiring seat for a
while (but yet to do one), I've consistently passed to the money
people that there's the purchase price and then there's the % on top
of that for equipment, contractors, etc. to integrate
> On Sep 19, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
> Sometimes it does not add any material value to either network. Sometimes it
> takes too long.
And sometimes the acquisition is really just about acquiring the assets, such
as the customer list*, and then they are left with having to run
On 9/19/23 17:40, Anne Mitchell wrote:
And sometimes the acquisition is really just about acquiring the assets, such
as the customer list*, and then they are left with having to run something that
they never really wanted until they can figure out what to do with it.
Right, buying the reve
Well sure, and I would like to think (probably mistakenly) that just no one
important enough (to the money people) made the money people that these other
things are *REQUIRED* to make the deal work.
Obviously, people lower on the ladder say it all of the time, but the important
enough money pe
Some of it is scale-related. Someone's operating just fine at the size they
are, but the next order of magnitude larger enjoys many benefits from that
size, but it takes either A) luck or B) the right skills to be able to move up
to get those benefits. In terms of network operators, there's a bi
> they are left with having to run something that they never really wanted
until they can figure out what to do with it
Buy enough Dark Fiber providers, you'll eventually acquire an ISP
Buy enough ISPs, you'll eventually acquire a Colo
Buy enough Colos, you'll eventually acquire a small Cloud
Buy
Well sure, but what started this tangent is that to me, anyway, it seemed like
ENA had just as much ISP as it had ISP, if not more. It would be like buying a
farm to get farm-fresh eggs in your kitchen.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Br
Ugh... Just as much NOT ISP as ISP.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "Matt Erculiani"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:39:49 AM
Subject: Re
You’ve got the blame right, but the fact that the cost savings don’t
materialize quickly seems to get forgiven more easily than a sudden (albeit
one-time, temporary) increase in costs to accelerate that transition. Result:
In general, no additional money, limp along and realize the cost savings
*nods* Differences between long term money and opportunistic money, which I
admit is starting to trend away from NANOG's purpose, but still kinda related
as it pertains to integration of networks.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers
On 2023-09-19 09:41, Matthew Petach wrote:
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 7:19AM Mike Hammett wrote:
[...]
I've never understood companies that acquire and don't completely
integrate as quickly as they can.
Ah, spoken with the voice of someone who's never been in the position
of:
a) acquiring
It can be even less customer-facing and more entrenched than that…
A uses ISIS and MPLS, B uses OSPF and native circuits.
Putting (e)BGP sessions across the border between those two is pretty quick and
easy.
Integration would essentially require shifting one system onto the other
methodology
Hey folks,
For those of you running/managing/dealing with openstack installations,
would you be so kind as to shed some light on what you're doing for
integrating Juniper and Cisco nexus devices specifically? My goals include
basic stuff like managing vxlan/vni allocation and integration, etc,
mana
Dear nanog-ers:
I go back many, many years as to baseline numbers for managing voip
networks, including things like CISCO LLQ, diffserv, fqm prioritizing
vlans, and running
voip networks entirely separately... I worked on codecs, such as oslec, and
early sip stacks, but that was over 20 years ago.
To that point, the new management team seems really interested in the managed services game (the QoS acquisition also falls into this vain) and I wonder the extent to which that whipsawing of attention is already piling on to what was already a lackluster customer service organization before they t
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:11 PM Dave Taht wrote:
> The thing is, I have been unable to find much research (as yet) as to why
> my number exists. Over here I am taking a poll as to what number is
> most correct (10ms, 30ms, 100ms, 200ms),
Hi Dave,
I don't know your use case but bear in mind that
Hi Matt,
At a previous employer (a telecom) I integrated OpenStack with CIsco NSO
with the NFV Orchestrator plugin. You didn't mention any use cases but
after gleaning a bit about your employer's offerings, I don't think this
option will fit your needs. I'm not familiar with a solution that wouldn
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