Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Jul 10, 2023, at 10:22, John Curran wrote: > >> On Jul 5, 2023, at 10:06 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> ... >> Opinions regarding leasing vary throughout the industry. In my opinion, >> since the shift to provider assigned addresses during the CIDR efforts in >> the mid 1990s, the

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread John Curran
On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: Actually, I couldn’t find anything in the NRPM which leads me to believe that there is any distinction in the documentation requirements for reassignment/reallocation regardless of associated connectivity. None of the policies seemed to specify

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 09:04, John Curran wrote: > > >> On Jul 11, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> Actually, I couldn’t find anything in the NRPM which leads me to believe >> that there is any distinction in the documentation requirements for >> reassignment/reallocation regardl

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread John Curran
On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jul 11, 2023, at 09:04, John Curran wrote: ... Of course, further policy clarity (whether to make clear that it does apply to non-connectivity reassignments or to make clear it does not apply beyond downstream customers) would be most we

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:47 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> – Leasing of IP address blocks independent of connectivity is not explicitly >> recognized in ARIN number resource policy (i.e. there is no policy that >> specifically allows or prohibits such activity.) > > Correct me if I am wrong

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread John Curran
Owen, BIll - Might I suggest moving this entire discussion over to ARIN’s ppml, as not everyone on nanog list necessary wants to spent their time reading about IP registry policy…? Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers > On Jul 11, 2023, at 1:02 P

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 10:02, William Herrin wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:47 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >>> – Leasing of IP address blocks independent of connectivity is not >>> explicitly recognized in ARIN number resource policy (i.e. there is no >>> policy that specifically a

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Jul 11, 2023, at 09:52, John Curran wrote: > > > >> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> >>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 09:04, John Curran wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>> Of course, further policy clarity (whether to make clear that it does apply >>> to non-connectivity reas

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread John Curran
On Jul 11, 2023, at 5:14 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: ... In fact, John, some further NRPM research reveals the following: 1. Downstream references almost all apply to address issuance limitations and customer utilization limitations. The only places the term is applied to registration are NRPM 4.2.3

Re: IP range for lease

2023-07-11 Thread Delong.com via NANOG
> On Jul 10, 2023, at 06:58, Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear NANOG-ers, > Hope this email finds you in good health! > > Please see my comments below, inline... > > Le jeudi 6 juillet 2023, Owen DeLong via NANOG > a écrit : >>  >>  >>  >>  >> Karin, >> >> Opinions re