Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-09 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I think we all appreciate how open source projects work. Calling out > their limitations is as old as mailing lists. I don't code. I test a > lot, and continue to test IS-IS in FRR on FreeBSD every year or so. I'll > keep testing and giving feedback at least once or twice a year. If it's > stil

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/9/23 14:32, Tom Beecher wrote: Except you didn't exactly "call out limitations". You simply said : IS-IS in Quagga and FRR are not yet ready for business, is what I would caution. The reality is that's not true. And just a few weeks prior, I had given an update about thi

webex.com DNS Contact - Possibly Broken DNSSEC?

2023-05-09 Thread Reuben Farrelly via NANOG
Does anyone know of a contact of someone (presumably at Webex/Cisco) who can take a look at the DNS for webex.com? It has been for some time now, logging a lot of DNSSEC warnings on my resolver: dnssec: validating external-media75.public.wnrtm-a-2.prod.infra.webex.com/NSEC: no valid signatu

Re: Aptum refuses to SWIP

2023-05-09 Thread Justin Streiner
When I worked for a local/regional ISP in the late 90s/early 00s, we initially SWIP'd assignments for business customers and did generic assignments for things like dial-up address pools or NAT front-end ranges for residential customers, but provided more detailed information for business customers

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-09 Thread Phil Bedard
From: Mark Tinka Date: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 2:03 AM To: Phil Bedard , nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Routed optical networks On 5/8/23 21:53, Phil Bedard wrote: There are quite a few QDD pluggables in production today capable of supporting 100G signals over 1000s of km or 400G near 1500

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-09 Thread Dave Taht
Up until this moment I was feeling that my take on the decline of traffic growth was somewhat isolated, in that I have long felt that we are nearing the top of the S curve of the data we humans can create and consume. About the only source of future traffic growth I can think of comes from getting

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-09 Thread Tom Beecher
> > The implication being that while it might work, it would make > administration of the system onerous and unpredictable, considering we are > dealing with a ton of FreeBSD installations, and not just a single server. > Adjusting a single tunable is 'onerous'? Ok. On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 9:00 AM

Re: webex.com DNS Contact - Possibly Broken DNSSEC?

2023-05-09 Thread Mark Andrews
There is nothing to worry about here. There is an insecure delegation at webex.com (no DS RRset). Named does bottom up validation (follows the RRSIG signer names) then does to down to prove insecure if that fails. The messages are logged during the first stage. > On 9 May 2023, at 23:33, Reube

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-09 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 6:40 PM Tom Beecher wrote: >> The implication being that while it might work, it would make administration >> of the system onerous and unpredictable, considering we are dealing with a >> ton of FreeBSD installations, and not just a single server. > > Adjusting a single tu

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-09 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "William Herrin" > On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 6:40 PM Tom Beecher wrote: >>> The implication being that while it might work, it would make >>> administration of >>> the system onerous and unpredictable, considering we are dealing with a ton >>> of >>> FreeBSD i

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/10/23 03:40, Tom Beecher wrote: Adjusting a single tunable is 'onerous'? Ok. In the context of long term administration of the environment, years after everybody has forgotten about the hack, or worse, folk leave and others take over; or if future FreeBSD updates decide to "go their

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/9/23 20:37, Phil Bedard wrote: [phil] These are already available today and have been for some time and in use in production networks for over a year now.  This is with 400G links running up to 600km in routers with QDD ports.  400G-16QAM using 60Gbaud (the OpenZR+ standard) can reach a