At 08:43 PM 02/02/2023, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
There is "microtrenching" and then there is
microtrenching. Very different things are
sometimes described by the same name. Some of
what Google tried to go was exceedingly shallow,
like 4 inches down. Cheap microtrenching done
too quick and too shall
Yet the independents are doing it anyway.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Eric Kuhnke"
To: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
Cc: "nanog list"
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 6:46
Hi folks,
At $day_job, I have a team of engineers who are oncall for critical
services in the United Kingdom. For $reasons, the national power grid is
announcing the possibility of rolling power cuts over the coming months.
Right now it's "unlikely", but possible. If cuts do happen, it'll be 3
We have the same issue here in suburban Atlanta but with Comcast. The
Comcast ped in my front yard has no cover... it's exposed to the elements.
There's a bright orange cable running from there to my neighbor's house,
it's been there for at least 3 years. At the least, it doesn't touch my
property.
I think the bright orange is so you don't run over it with your lawn mower,
especially since it's going to be there for 3 years.
You'd think in the 3 years in the US South it would be grown over and buried
itself. 😉
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Hi,
> At $day_job, I have a team of engineers who are oncall for critical services
> in
> the United Kingdom. For $reasons, the national power grid is announcing the
> possibility of rolling power cuts over the coming months.
> Right now it's "unlikely", but possible. If cuts do happen, it'll
On Fri, 3 Feb 2023 at 16:15, Israel G. Lugo wrote:
> Could anyone with last mile experience help with some ballpark figures?
> I.e. 15 min vs 8h or 8 days.
This would be highly market specific. In many cases, probably most
cases, there is no regulatory requirement for availability for
internet s
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- On Feb 3, 2023, at 6:11 AM, Israel G. Lugo israel.l...@lugosys.com wrote:
Hi,
> I'm looking at the cost/benefit of deploying small UPSes at people's
> homes, to protect their network access when oncall. Just to power the
> home router (+ONT if FTTP), and keep a charged laptop. I figure anyt
Any contacts available that are responsible for androidpolice.com website
hosting? Some of our IP space is not able to access their website. Other IP
addresses of ours are working just fine. This appears to be some kind HTTP
protocol layer issue but only affecting certain IP addresses. I am gues
On 2/3/23 06:11, Israel G. Lugo wrote:
Question is, how much battery runtime can I typically expect from ISPs'
last mile infra.
See comments inline, this is my experience in the US. UK may be
substantially different.
People will have a random mix of DSL, FTTP, DOCSIS. Another alternative
i
On 2/3/23 16:11, Israel G. Lugo wrote:
Hi folks,
At $day_job, I have a team of engineers who are oncall for critical
services in the United Kingdom. For $reasons, the national power grid
is announcing the possibility of rolling power cuts over the coming
months. Right now it's "unlikely"
On 2/3/23 19:25, Brian Turnbow via NANOG wrote:
They have been discussing it here in Italy as well.
The isp/telecommunication industry here is tryng to get Cos/pops/cabinets
listed as critical infra and removed from rolling power cuts.
I would say plan for the worst, because there will alw
On 2/3/23 19:53, Saku Ytti wrote:
In practice I would default to expecting 0 min availability during
power outage, regardless of how resilient my CPE is. We can scarcely
make the Internet work at the best of times.
Agreed, this is a good place to start. It's a bit doom & gloom, but most
pe
On 2/3/23 21:11, Sabri Berisha wrote:
Living in an area served by PG&E, I've had my share of power cuts. At home
I have a 600va UPS that protects my cable modem, RPI router, and POE switch
which serves 2 APs. That lasts about 30 minutes, which gives me enough time
to fire up my generator.
I
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:05 PM Mark Tinka wrote:
> On 2/3/23 21:11, Sabri Berisha wrote:
> > Living in an area served by PG&E, I've had my share of power cuts. At home
> > I have a 600va UPS that protects my cable modem, RPI router, and POE switch
> > which serves 2 APs. That lasts about 30 minute
On 2/4/23 07:29, William Herrin wrote:
If it's just a little gasoline generator, 30 minutes is about right.
It takes 10 minutes to decide the power isn't coming back soon and
another 10 to drag the generator out of the shed, hook up the wires
and get it going even though it's cold, wet, and h
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:36 PM Mark Tinka wrote:
> On 2/4/23 07:29, William Herrin wrote:
> > If it's just a little gasoline generator, 30 minutes is about right.
> > It takes 10 minutes to decide the power isn't coming back soon and
> > another 10 to drag the generator out of the shed, hook up th
On 2/4/23 07:48, William Herrin wrote:
Pre-wired makes it a standby generator, which 9 times out of 10 is
automatic start with an automatic transfer switch. It's running within
seconds whether you're home or not. Electricians cost too much and
20kva natural gas / propane generators with an AT
On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 10:01 PM Mark Tinka wrote:
> What I mean by "pre-wired" is that, perhaps, the generator is pre-setup
> and wired into the house, but is not in standby mode to manage costs,
> and perhaps, to be reliable since ATS's are often dodgy.
>
> Maybe a manual start is required. Maybe
On 2/4/23 08:11, William Herrin wrote:
Not for more than a decade now, at least not in the U.S. When you're
up to whole-house generator prices everyone expects electric start.
Half the portables have electric start. Most lawnmowers have electric
start. Once you have that, the cost to make the
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