Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Gregory
I happen to have a few MX204’s (some MX204 “old version” and some MX204-HW-BASE left. In case anyone is interested please contact me directly. Cheers, Greg From: NANOG on behalf of "aar...@gvtc.com" Date: Friday, 22 April 2022 at 20:51 To: 'Drew Weaver' , "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: RE: Any s

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Dave Taht
As I've been saying for a while, instead of buying new kit, perhaps we could spend some time on getting better software onto our older kit? Getting stuff to multiplex better, be more reliable, last longer? It isn't just me wanting to upgrade a billion+ routers with existing crappy software to open

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd bet it's cheaper and easier to quantify new hardware than software. Labor was super expensive and now it is ready to implode. On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:27 AM Dave Taht wrote: > As I've been saying for a while, instead of buying new kit, perhaps we > could spend some time on getting better so

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM NetEquity Sales wrote: > > As someone who works within the "secondary market" for networking hardware, > there is a ton of demand spilling over into the "pre-owned/vendor > refurbished" market. I just wish there were people putting in a value-add, like reflashing

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Jason Biel
Who's going to support that reflashed device? Certainly not the OEM vendor. On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:30 AM Dave Taht wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM NetEquity Sales > wrote: > > > > As someone who works within the "secondary market" for networking > hardware, there is a ton of demand

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread NetEquity Sales
As someone who works within the "secondary market" for networking hardware, there is a ton of demand spilling over into the "pre-owned/vendor refurbished" market. Market prices on pre-owned equipment are rapidly increasing in step with increased demand and dwindling supply. Market prices on 1G -

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:33 AM Jason Biel wrote: > > Who's going to support that reflashed device? Certainly not the OEM vendor. The oem ain't gonna support the resold device either. Yes, arguably, someone or someones doing a value add would have to be making money at it somehow. However, at

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Jason Biel
> The oem ain't gonna support the resold device either. Many vendors support resold gear through a recertification cost in order to bring it back under a support contract. On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:58 AM Dave Taht wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:33 AM Jason Biel wrote: > > > > Who's going

Re: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:01 AM Jason Biel wrote: > > > The oem ain't gonna support the resold device either. > > Many vendors support resold gear through a recertification cost in order to > bring it back under a support contract. In my world, support ends after 6 months. Period. It's even wo

RE: Any sign of supply chain returning to normal?

2022-05-19 Thread Paul Amaral via NANOG
We have customers being forced to use EOL products that they previously replaces as they continue to wait on the vendor for new EQ. Paul -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Dave Taht Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 12:16 PM To: Jason Biel Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Any sign of supply

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