Hello Saku:
> > This is intended to replace ARP, ICMP Router Advertisement, ICMP
> > Redirect, ICMP Information, ICMP Mask, and OSPF Hello in the
> [IPv6]
> > environment. There are also elements of the OSI ES-IS and IS-IS
> Hello.
> >
> > We were forward looking to deployments of tho
It seems team developing IPv6 had ONE way of doing things,
with is actually recipe for disaster. Why? Because they were building an IP
protocol. Something that will be using globally by ALL networks around.
Not some local IOT (useless) shit used here and there.
Thats why such IP protocol should be
“It seems all the market needed was IPv4 with bigger address space.
Instead of delivering it, some contraption has been created trying to solve
non-existant (or already fixed) problems.”
your argument against IPv6 is that they should have created a new version
of IPv4, but bigger?
So… IPv6?
On T
Did you read his email? He was saying that what a lot of people wanted was IPv4
+ bigger address space, and not any other changes. Speaking for myself, other
than the bigger address space, for a corporate/enterprise environment I have
yet to see any advantages of IPv6 and many, many issues.
Inf
You can still do NAT with IPv6 like you ask for. It's been around over a
decade now:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6296
On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 at 12:02, Matthew Huff wrote:
> Did you read his email? He was saying that what a lot of people wanted was
> IPv4 + bigger address space, and not
Good to know. I’ll keep a look out for future implantations. Currently we are
using Cisco 3548P-XL switches with low-latency nat to support microsecond
latency natting. Hopefully someday they will support it.
Matthew Huff | Director of Technical Operations | OTA Management LLC
Office: 914-460-
Indeed. I was quite surprised to learn that an issue we were dealing
with was a result of not having have the latest TZ file installed.
On 3/16/2022 4:47 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote:
This is a weirdly long thread, mostly unrelated to NANOG, it seems.
The work for how this will be implemented in
Yes, IPv6.. but for example 64bit address space but with a much
closer ties to IPv4 imo. So network people would be much more
confortable with it.
I already said how my ideal IPv6 should look like. Many people
disagree with that ok. Its very hard to please everyone indeed, hence
KISS concept shoul
Ohh sorry if I misunderstood orginal message a bit.
I am all on your side about it indeed.
I am el-cheapo dual-homed at home, and this setup is impossible
to do without NAT. I can add/del ISP connections at any time with
minimal reconf. Have static IPs in LAN and overlay network.
Life is good.
Wh
>
> Did you read his email? He was saying that what a lot of people wanted was
> IPv4 + bigger address space, and not any other changes. Speaking for
> myself, other than the bigger address space, for a corporate/enterprise
> environment I have yet to see any advantages of IPv6 and many, many issue
I agree that parts of IPv6 design suffer from a bit of overcomplication.
Maybe it didn't seem that way when they did it, but experience has taught
us otherwise. So we should take those learnings and adjust.
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 9:27 AM wrote:
> Yes, IPv6.. but for example 64bit address space
Hi, Mark:
1) " ... known defective products ... ": Could you please define
what do you mean? And, what "products" do you have in mind? Otherwise,
this sounds like a scare tactic without a foundation.
Regards,
Abe (2022-03-17 11:32)
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...regarding a hijacked network. If someone could contact me off-list, I
would appreciate it.
I've tried ab...@comcast.net and
cnoc_corenetworkoperati...@cable.comcast.com with no luck.
Hi, Greg:
1) " ... The IETF has changed its position on several (IMO) key
issues during its existence. ... ": Well said! In fact, I believe
(from one of the APNIC blogs recounting the Internet history) that
CG-NAT was one of those "bastards" who turned to be accepted as a prince
whom e
Hi, Tom:
1) " I've read the draft. ... ": Then, you still overlooked the
essence of the keyword "overlay":
A. The EzIP project started with the goal of getting enough IP
addresses for end-to-end communication according to the old fashioned
definition in telecommunications, su
Hi, Tom:
1) " ... it has serious deficiencies. ... ": Could you please be
specific? Branding something without qualifying information is
unprofessional.
Regards,
Abe (2022-03-17 13:18)
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Hi network operators,
As RPKI validation continues to become increasingly broadly deployed (yay!), I wanted to highlight
and ask what deployment policies are towards dependency validation and pinning of RPKI validation
software. For example, routinator's dependency graph is somewhat large, and
On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, Carsten Bormann wrote:
Oh.
Your message started insightful.
Now you are back to binary authorization, just with a jurisdiction parameter
going in.
Public CAs are third-party introducers. Its like a friend of a friend of
a friend sets you up on a blind date. Your friend'
> On Mar 16, 2022, at 12:24 , Chris Adams wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Owen DeLong said:
>> You’re right… Two changes to a single file in most cases:
>>
>> 1. Set the correct new timezone (e.g. MST for California).
>
> And now your system displays wrong info 100% of the time, since as I
>
The Ukraine electric grid has been synched with the Russian electric grid
since the fall of U.S.S.R.
In 2017, Ukrain and ENTSO-E (Continental Europe electric grid authority)
began planning to interconnect the Ukraine grid with the Europe Grid (and
disconnect from the Russian grid).
The or
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:29:07AM -0700, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
>
> You’re right… Two changes to a single file in most cases:
>
> 1.Set the correct new timezone (e.g. MST for California).
> 2.Turn off the Daylight Stupid Time flag.
>
> The previous change involved updating MANY zo
I was reading an article in the Economist about a new fiber route down
the Red Sea from Israel and wondered if there were any branches off of
those lines and where the routers were for them. The route kind of made
it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense
to leave t
On 3/17/22 3:30 AM, b...@uu3.net wrote:
It seems team developing IPv6 had ONE way of doing things,
with is actually recipe for disaster. Why? Because they were building an IP
protocol. Something that will be using globally by ALL networks around.
Not some local IOT (useless) shit used here and
it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense
to leave them at sea if you could put a router there.
First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?
> On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:26 PM, Jerry Cloe wrote:
>
>
> it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense
> to leave them at sea if you could put a router there.
>
> First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?
Undersea cables absolutely carry powe
It appears that Jerry Cloe said:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense
>to leave them at sea if you could put a router there.
>
>First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?
Undersea cables have had power for repeaters since T
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 21:26 -0500, Jerry Cloe wrote:
> First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?
Hydroelectricity (or wave energy), *obviously*. Sheesh.
:-)
Regards, K.
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High voltage DC from landing stations to the underwater amps and submarine
branching units.
jms
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 22:46 Karl Auer wrote:
> On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 21:26 -0500, Jerry Cloe wrote:
> > First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?
>
> Hydroelectricity (or wav
John's probably seen this but I think it addresses power on cables and
branching nodes (which are just optical /roadm devices)
https://youtu.be/H9R4tznCNB0
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 22:40 John Levine wrote:
> It appears that Jerry Cloe said:
> >-=-=-=-=-=-
> >
> >it look like it was completely a
Surprisingly it is power that primarily limits repeater count in undersea spans.
Ie, most available power is going to be eaten up budget wise by the repeaters,
leaving none for routers.
It’s not terribly clear that a router would substantially benefit things that a
ROADM could not also accompli
> First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?
The first answer that came to my mind was Raman amplification. It is
powered by a beam of light and the fiber itself is the amplifier.
Of course, there are no Raman Routers.
Schroedinger Routers .. now that's what I want to s
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 19:59 -0700, H.Shrikumar wrote:
> Schroedinger Routers .. now that's what I want to see. Deflection
> routing taken to its logical conclusion. But you can never tell if it
> worked or not.
Yes, you can. But you can't see if they are *working*. :-)
Regards, K.
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On 3/17/22 18:42, Michael Thomas wrote:
I was reading an article in the Economist about a new fiber route down
the Red Sea from Israel and wondered if there were any branches off of
those lines and where the routers were for them. The route kind of
made it look like it was completely at sea,
At this point I would *love* to see IPv4 get extended, a software patch
applied to devices, and IPv6 die a quick painless death.
Its not impossible to envision that IPv4 does not ever go away but
actually gets extended in such a way that it obsoletes IPv6. The longer
this drags out the less
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