Re: End-user Alert Delivery (was Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study)

2021-01-14 Thread Mel Beckman
This is because there is only enough undecayed Americium in the 10-YO smoke detectors to supply radioactive boyscouts with reactor fuel :) -mel > On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:49 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > > On January 14, 2021 at 04:56 j...@baylink.com (Jay R. Ashworth) wrote: >> Well, it pro

Re: Uganda Communications Commission shutdown order

2021-01-14 Thread Joly MacFie
New ISOC shutdowns page https://insights.internetsociety.org/shutdowns On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 3:05 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > > The Uganda Communications Commission has issued a shutdown order for the > operation of all Internet gateways in Uganda beginning January 13, 2021 > until further notic

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Keith Medcalf
I thought y'all yankee doodles had this thing called the Communication Decency Act section 230 that prevented a "service provider" from being responsible for the content of third-party's -- whether or not they were acting as a publisher; and, also the principle of law that an agreement to viol

Re: Uganda Communications Commission shutdown order

2021-01-14 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 13/01/2021, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > >> On Jan 13, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Alejandro Acosta >> wrote: >> >> >> On 13/1/21 4:05 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: >>> >>> The Uganda Communications Commission has issued a shutdown order for the >>> operation of all Internet gateways in Uganda beginning January 13

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread adamv0025
https://aws.amazon.com/agreement/ 7.2 Termination. (a) Termination for Convenience. You may terminate this Agreement for any reason by providing us notice and closing your account for all Services for which we provide an account closing mechanism. We may terminate this Agreement for any reason b

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Thursday, 14 January, 2021 04:53, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: >https://aws.amazon.com/agreement/ >7.2 Termination. >(a) Termination for Convenience. You may terminate this Agreement for any >reason by providing us notice and closing your account for all Services >for which we provide

Re: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Alain Hebert
    Hi,     This is just their DNS, parler.com itself returns to 0.0.0.0 now. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On

RE: Nashville

2021-01-14 Thread Hiers, David
No doubt they're good, but the best support can't overcome bad design. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Robert DeVita Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:17 PM To: Eric Kuhnke ; Sean Donelan Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Nashville AT&T Disaster Recovery Team is probably the best in the business. The resour

Re: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread niels=nanog
* n...@foobar.org (Nick Hilliard) [Mon 11 Jan 2021, 13:56 CET]: Eric S. Raymond wrote on 11/01/2021 00:00: Yes, it would. This was an astonnishingly stupid move on AWS's part; I'm prett sure their counsel was not conmsulted. this is quite an innovative level of speculation. Care to provide so

Re: End-user Alert Delivery (was Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study)

2021-01-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, William Herrin said: > Ordinary ionization-based smoke detectors use a 10-year lithium > battery, which is about the same lifespan as the americium-based > detector circuit as it begins to decay into neptunium. Also, some detectors are wired to household 120VAC service, so the b

Re: Nashville

2021-01-14 Thread Javier J
I wouldn't say bad design, I would say outdated design. How do you take a single fiber optic cable or a copper cable bundle going to a business/building or a house and terminate it at 2 different Central Offices? It inherently has a single points of failure. (why I added extra straps to my fiber ou

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread adamv0025
> Medcalf > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 1:06 PM > > > On Thursday, 14 January, 2021 04:53, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > >https://aws.amazon.com/agreement/ > >7.2 Termination. > >(a) Termination for Convenience. You may terminate this Agreement for > >any reason by providing us no

Re: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread james jones
God I miss that man! On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:28 PM Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > 2. Where do we expect legit insurrections to communicate? Should > > AWS/Facebook/Twitter boot those calling for violent uprisings in Hong > Kong > > (for example). > > > > I suppose

Re: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Matt Erculiani
Is there a remote possibility here that Verisign might say "yeah, we're gonna glue this domain down to 0.0.0.0 and not allow registration"? Is there any precedent for this? Would seem like a game of whack-a-mole that anyone would want to avoid. Really that would seem like the only way to ratchet u

Re: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 8:47 AM Matt Erculiani wrote: > Is there a remote possibility here that Verisign might say "yeah, we're gonna > glue this domain down to 0.0.0.0 and not allow registration"? Absent a court order? No, not a chance. Verisign is not parler's registrar. They'd be inviting twe

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Mel Beckman
I, however, do know that this is the contract that was in force. Because I read the lawsuit, and the contract, which I’ve verified is identical to the one posted online, is included as an exhibit (although the courts managed to get the pages out of order). And yes, Amazon had a duty to provide

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Thursday, 14 January, 2021 10:02, Mel Beckman wrote: >I, however, do know that this is the contract that was in force. Because >I read the lawsuit, and the contract, which I’ve verified is identical to >the one posted online, is included as an exhibit (although the courts >managed to get the

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread adamv0025
Shut , so the boilerplate termination of agreement for any reason with 30 day notice was indeed part of the contract? -so they forgot to bump the default up I guess, but anyways wouldn't help them either way. Was there anything else in the contract that would allow amazon to terminate the contr

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Alain Hebert
    Good to here since you're either part of:         . Parler legal team;         . Amazon legal team;         . Pervue of all the communication between both corporation;     ... or just a Parler user ... is my guess. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNI

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:13 AM wrote: > (b) Termination for Cause. > (i) material breach remains uncured for a period of 30 days from receipt of > notice It's fairly clear from Amazon's communications that this is their basis for terminating Parler. They began notifying Parler in September tha

Re: Unimus Network Automation https://unimus.net/

2021-01-14 Thread Michael Bolton via NANOG
We started using it in the last month. Great software. We’re all Juniper and it has no issues at all with mass configs. We were using Oxidized with LibreNMS, which is better than rconfig, IMO, but this is even better. As others have said, you can’t beat the value. On Jan 13, 2021, at 10:3

RE: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Shamil K via NANOG
The wiki (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230) page has this > The statute in Section 230(c)(2) further provides "Good Samaritan" protection > from civil liability for operators of interactive computer services in the > removal or moderation of third-party material they deem obscene or o

Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread chiel
Hello, We are a small ISP. Most of our customers have a hosted e-mail service (gmail/office365/etc..) and have their own outgoing email sorted. But a handful of customers rely on our SMTP server for outgoing e-mail. Currently we host this our self with a physical box. But I would like to have a

RE: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Matthias Merkel
Hi Matt, That’s not how it would be done. There is an EPP status serverHold (or, if issued by the registrar, clientHold), which removes a domain from DNS. This is used after arbitration or court decisions and for cases of abuse. I doubt however that Verisign would suspend Parler’s domain. Matt

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Rod Beck
Folks, There is a political dimension here. Sedition. Parlet is a hornets nest of right wing extremism. The courts will take that into account. Moreover, Parlet's financial resources will evaporate very quickly and with it any lawsuit. I think it is time to bury this issue as a discussion top

Re: Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread Jon Bruce via NANOG
DuoCircle has been great to me. $4/month will get you 2500 outbound emails. They (of course) have plans above that. I've had no deliverability issues since using them. It's also really easy to set up. You can also do up to 1000 outbound messages for free, which is a good test. I have a referra

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Ge DUPIN
Interesting ! Money can buy many things 🙂 Best Ge > Le 14 janv. 2021 à 20:43, Rod Beck a écrit : > > Folks, > > There is a political dimension here. Sedition. Parlet is a hornets nest of > right wing extremism. > > The courts will take that into account. > > Moreover, Parlet's financial r

Paging a TATA person?

2021-01-14 Thread Dan Mahoney
Someone in TATA networking, if you could please contact me off-list, I'd appreciate it. This relates to my day job doing DNS things for ISC. -Dan -- Dan Mahoney Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC FB: fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV LI: linkedin.com/in/gushi Site

Re: DoNotPay Spam?

2021-01-14 Thread Mel Beckman
After we began the process to serve their agent for legal service, the CEO emailed me the following assertion that they’ve fixed the issue, including the missing unsubscribe. We are waiting to see if the fix has indeed been made. -mel Begin forwarded message: On Jan 14, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Joshu

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:01:19AM -0700, Keith Medcalf wrote: > This result will only come to pass if Parler wins their lawsuit (which is > likely) The first hearing in this case was held today. Per reporting by Katherine Long of the Seattle Times, during that hearing Parler's attorney:

Re: Re Parler and its very underprepared attorney

2021-01-14 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> Per reporting by Katherine Long of the Seattle Times, during > that hearing Parler's attorney: > > - forgot the name of Parler's CEO > > - stated that he's unfamiliar with some of the terminology > because he's not on social media > > - admitted that he filed a day l

Re: DoNotPay Spam?

2021-01-14 Thread Robert Webb
Thank you for the follow up and your time to take care of this. On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 3:33 PM Mel Beckman wrote: > After we began the process to serve their agent for legal service, the CEO > emailed me the following assertion that they’ve fixed the issue, including > the missing unsubscribe.

Re: Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:27:12PM +0100, Bryan Holloway wrote: > There's a pretty big difference between imparting knowledge and inciting > violence. Not to mention it is was a COINTELPRO work product. -- Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header. Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread John Levine
In article <70e9-8be1-483c-8e49-e9cda6b4a...@beckman.org> you write: >Parler also has an excellent antitrust case, as the idea that three companies >would simultaneously pull the plug on >their services for a single common customer is going to be hard to explain to >a judge. Aw, come on. J

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Mel Beckman
John, What’s your point? Are you saying that it’s OK for an ISP to break antitrust laws for a political cause? To bring this discussion back into the realm of operational discussions, shouldn’t we be building infrastructure that has the audit and change management components needed to detect il

Re: Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Check out sendgrid.net -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Jan 14, 2021, at 12:59, chiel wrote: > > Hello, > > We are a small ISP. Most of our customers have a hosted e-mail service > (gma

Re: Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 1/14/21 3:07 PM, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: Check out sendgrid.net Be mindful that there is and has been a concerted effort to block parts of SendGrid. There's even a relatively new RBL -- which started because of SendGrid -- specifically for blocking some of their worse customers. M

Re: Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread John Levine
In article <670aea8b-ef34-6450-32f1-725ce6de7...@gmx.net> you write: >But a handful of customers rely on our SMTP server for outgoing e-mail. >Currently we host this our self with a physical box. But I would like to >have a hosted solution so that I don't have to worry about keeping up >with update

Re: Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 03:45:06PM -0700, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: > Be mindful that there is and has been a concerted effort to block parts of > SendGrid. There's even a relatively new RBL -- which started because of > SendGrid -- specifically for blocking some of their worse customers. Many

RE: Looking for hosted SMTP service for small ISP

2021-01-14 Thread Ray Orsini
We use postmarkapp.com for our transactional and marketing outbound. It works extremely well and has excellent diagnostics. We've been with them a few years. Ray Orsini Chief Executive Officer OIT, LLC 305.967.6756 x1009 | 305.571.6272 r...@oit.co | www.oit.co oit.co/ray How are we doing? W

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Mel Beckman" > John, > > What’s your point? Are you saying that it’s OK for an ISP to break antitrust > laws for a political cause? No, Mel. In very short, he's saying that criminal sedition and armed insurrection *are not political causes*, and I am addin

DNSSEC failures for www.cdc.gov

2021-01-14 Thread John R. Levine
I see that www.cdc.gov is a CNAME for www.akam.cdc.gov. which in turn is a CNAME for www.cdc.gov.edgekey.net. But it appears that while www.cdc.gov is signed, www.akam.cdc.gov in the same zone on the same server is not. Huh? What? $ dig @ns1.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov +dnssec ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode:

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Mike Bolitho
> > And now, with prejudice, I'm requesting that this thread get moderated, > before > anyone *else* volunteers to jump off a bridge. List admins, for real. This has run its course just like I said it would several days ago. It is 100% speculative, has nothing to do with network operations, and r

AS 701 ?

2021-01-14 Thread Craig
Anyone else having peering issues problems with AS 701?

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread John Sage
On 1/14/21 4:09 PM, Mike Bolitho wrote: And now, with prejudice, I'm requesting that this thread get moderated, before anyone *else* volunteers to jump off a bridge. List admins, for real. This has run its course just like I said it would several days ago. It is 100% speculative,

Re: Petition for Board of Trustees adoption consideration of ARIN-2020-2

2021-01-14 Thread Adam Thompson
Frankly, at this point, I'll support whatever lets me never have to hear about the subject again. -Adam (Yes, I know Outlook has filters, thank you. In fact, I think I'll go create one right now.) Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services [1593169877849] 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winn

Re: DNSSEC failures for www.cdc.gov

2021-01-14 Thread Mark Andrews
This has been noted many times over the last 3 months on multiple lists but it looks like the CDC have made things worse recently. All the servers for cdc.gov now return unsigned answers for akam.cdc.gov. Previously only 3 of the six where returning bad answers, the other 3 where returning ref

Re: AS 701 ?

2021-01-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:16 PM Craig wrote: > > Anyone else having peering issues problems with AS 701? meaning: 1) "I lost all routes to 701 paths" 2) "All my traffic into 701 never returns" 3) links to 701 are full, yikes! 4) other ? more info is more better.

Re: AS 701 ?

2021-01-14 Thread Craig
yea fast email, details lacking..too much going on tonight w/ changes... our IPv4 & IPv6 Peers both went down, bounced a few times, now down hard... have tickets opened with Verizon, but no ETA, not sure if anyone else experienced this. we are in eastern US On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:21 PM Chris

Re: Re Parler

2021-01-14 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mike Bolitho wrote: List admins, for real. This has run its course just like I said it would several days ago. It is 100% speculative, has nothing to do with network operations, and requires actual lawyers with access to the case information and witnesses to figure out what's going on. No lawy