Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 12/18/17, 2:36 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Harald Koch" wrote: > They could use IPv6. I mean, if the mobile phone companies can figure it out, > surely an ISP can... Except for cases when it is impossible or impractical to update software on a great number of legacy devices… JL

Geolocate data for allocated blocks

2017-12-19 Thread JASON BOTHE
I am seeking assistance in getting nets I’ve allocated (several months ago) to an office in another RIR region to properly update its geolocate data. In this particular case, I have a net in use in India, but currently reflects Houston as its address although the allocation indicates otherwise

Re: Geolocate data for allocated blocks

2017-12-19 Thread Alistair Mackenzie
Most places are using Maxmind for their GeoIP. You can ask them to update the database here: https://support.maxmind.com/geoip-data-correction-request/ It takes about a month in my experience to see results. Make sure the data in whois is also up to date for your blocks. On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4

Multi lane optics

2017-12-19 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hello, Some optics are implemented with multiple lasers such as QSFP+ with 4x 10G = 40G or QSFP28 with 4x 25G = 100G. How is the ethernet traffic load balanced between those lanes? Is it bit by bit or more like LACP (packet by packet)? I need to make sure my solution will handle 10G streams

Re: Multi lane optics

2017-12-19 Thread Tyler Conrad
This blog has a pretty good runthrough - http://fmad.io/blog-100g-ethernet.html Scroll down to "100G PROTOCOLS". On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > Hello, > > Some optics are implemented with multiple lasers such as QSFP+ with 4x 10G > = 40G or QSFP28 with 4x 25G = 100G.

Re: Multi lane optics

2017-12-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/19/17 08:45, Tyler Conrad wrote: > This blog has a pretty good runthrough - > http://fmad.io/blog-100g-ethernet.html > > Scroll down to "100G PROTOCOLS". > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Some optics are implemented with multiple lasers such a

Eurofiber Contact

2017-12-19 Thread Rod Beck
Please contact me ASAP concerning Amsterdam DF. Roderick Beck Director of Global Sales United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com 85 Király utca, 1077 Budapest rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com 36-30-859-5144 [1467221477350_image005.png]

Re: 40G and 100G optics options

2017-12-19 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Dec 18, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Fredrik Korsbäck hu...@nordu.net wrote: > This is the "failure" of us (the business) choosing QSFP as the de-factor > formfactor for 100G, there is not power in > that cage to make 10km+ optics in an easy way. If we would have pushed for > CFP4 > as the "last" f

Re: 40G and 100G optics options

2017-12-19 Thread Fredrik Korsbäck
> 19 dec. 2017 kl. 19:24 skrev Sabri Berisha : > > - On Dec 18, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Fredrik Korsbäck hu...@nordu.net wrote: > >> This is the "failure" of us (the business) choosing QSFP as the de-factor >> formfactor for 100G, there is not power in >> that cage to make 10km+ optics in an easy

Re: 40G and 100G optics options

2017-12-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/19/17 10:24, Sabri Berisha wrote: > - On Dec 18, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Fredrik Korsbäck hu...@nordu.net wrote: > >> This is the "failure" of us (the business) choosing QSFP as the de-factor >> formfactor for 100G, there is not power in >> that cage to make 10km+ optics in an easy way. If we w

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread ITechGeek
While a single network gets at /64, isn't the practice suppose to be providers allocating a /56 or a /60 for home users (you know so your IOT, wired lan, wifi, guest network, gaming systems, bathroom, bedroom, etc. can all be on their own networks)? ---

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:56 PM, ITechGeek wrote: > While a single network gets at /64, isn't the practice suppose to be > providers allocating a /56 or a /60 for home users (you know so your IOT, > wired lan, wifi, guest network, gaming systems, bathroom, bedroom, etc. can > all be on their own

Re: Geolocate data for allocated blocks

2017-12-19 Thread Bryan Holloway
https://www.iplocation.net/ ... is pretty comprehensive. Includes Maxmind and others ... On 12/19/17 10:29 AM, Alistair Mackenzie wrote: Most places are using Maxmind for their GeoIP. You can ask them to update the database here: https://support.maxmind.com/geoip-data-correction-request/ It ta

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread UpTide .
If we allocate a /64 like we do single ipv4 addresses now the space gets 2^56 (16777216) times larger; but if we start doing something crazy like allocating a /48 or /56 that number plummets. (256 times larger, and 65536 times larger respectfully.) But then again I'm bad with math, maybe not?

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 12/19/2017 01:55 PM, William Herrin wrote: Providers assigning a single /64 or a /128 to an always-on customer are doing it wrong. You know who you are. The cable ISP that I had (prior to moving) assigned a single /64 for the outside of the router. I could also request provider delegation

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread Fletcher Kittredge
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Scott Morizot wrote: > > I think the big picture here is that they helped fund the development of IP > and received > large enough v4 allocations at the outset that they haven't had to use > kludges like RFC1918 Um, sorry but as an old timer and a former employee

MSN/Azure

2017-12-19 Thread Joe Carroll
Anyone have a clueful contact at Azure/MSN? We have a block of recently acquired address space being filtered.

contact for WCGDB routing registry?

2017-12-19 Thread Christopher Rogers
Does anyone have a contact for the WCGDB RR? They've got an invalid object registered that is being mirrored to other providers, but I am unable to find any working poc. Also why is wcg.com running an RR that's being mirrored by t1s to begin with? (changed had wcg.com email addr.) cheers -chris

a new source for authoritative routing data: ARIN WHOIS

2017-12-19 Thread Job Snijders
Dear NANOG, I'd like to share an update on some routing security activities that ARIN, NTT Communications, YYCIX (Calgary Internet Exchange), the NLNOG Foundation, and the arouteserver project have been collaborating on. Quite some puzzles pieces were brought together! :) Traditionally, there are

Re: MSN/Azure

2017-12-19 Thread Christian Kuhtz via NANOG
Joe, Happy to help get you to the right person. Please reply direct with details. Thanks, Christian From: Joe Carroll Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2:14 PM Subject: MSN/Azure To: nanog@nanog.org Anyone have a clueful contact at Azure/MSN? We have a block of recently acquired address space bei

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread Bryan Holloway
Comcast, at least in my neck of the woods, hands out /56s. On 12/19/17 4:03 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote: On 12/19/2017 01:55 PM, William Herrin wrote: Providers assigning a single /64 or a /128 to an always-on customer are doing it wrong. You know who you are. The cable ISP that I had (

Final Reminder to Re-Register DMCA Agents in Electronic System

2017-12-19 Thread Sean Donelan
The U.S. Copyright Office has been moving DMCA registration from paper forms to an online registration system. All previously filed paper DMCA agent registration forms expire on December 31, 2017. U.S. ISPs and non-US ISPs doing business in the United States should have re-registered using t

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Dec 19, 2017, at 07:39 , Livingood, Jason > wrote: > > On 12/18/17, 2:36 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Harald Koch" > wrote: >> They could use IPv6. I mean, if the mobile phone companies can figure it >> out, surely an ISP can... > > Except for cases when it is impossible or impractical to u

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:18:57 +, "UpTide ." said: > If we allocate a /64 like we do single ipv4 addresses now the space gets 2^56 > (16777216) times larger; but if we start doing something crazy like allocating > a /48 or /56 that number plummets. (256 times larger, and 65536 times larger > resp

Foundry FastIron

2017-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
A client of mine has some Foundry FastIron Edge X424HFs. Brocade and Extreme don't seem overly ambitious to help. Anyone have any documentation they can scrounge up? SFP compatibility list? The ones I see in there already look substantially like the ones I get from FiberStore, but that doesn't

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:03:36 -0600, Bryan Holloway said: > Comcast, at least in my neck of the woods, hands out /56s. Hmm. Odd. Around here, they're handing out /60s. Which is OK, since I'm living in a 3 bedroom apartment that can be covered by one router. If I had to do downstream delegation t

IPSec SPI

2017-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Is it possible for light packet loss (0.1% - 0.3%) to cause these errors: Dec 18 00:12:07.098: %CRYPTO-4-RECVD_PKT_INV_SPI: decaps: rec'd IPSEC packet has invalid spi for destaddr=Z.Z.Z.Z, prot=50, spi=0x9E6D41B7(2657960375), srcaddr=B.B.B.B, input interface=GigabitEthernet0/2 Dec 18 00:20:47.

Re: IPSec SPI

2017-12-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Note: I'm working on figuring out the cause of the packet loss regardless of their position. I would just like them to solve their problem if it isn't me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Messa

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-19 Thread Mark Andrews
> On 20 Dec 2017, at 2:39 am, Livingood, Jason > wrote: > > On 12/18/17, 2:36 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Harald Koch" > wrote: >> They could use IPv6. I mean, if the mobile phone companies can figure it >> out, surely an ISP can... > > Except for cases when it is impossible or impractical to u

Re: a new source for authoritative routing data: ARIN WHOIS

2017-12-19 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 20/12/2017 00:18, Job Snijders wrote: Wow!  This is great!  I have just started using it and will need to set aside a swath of time to delve deeper into this. Regards, Hank > Dear NANOG, > > I'd like to share an update on some routing security activities that > ARIN, NTT Communications, YYCIX