Re: Multicom Hijacks: Do you peer with these turkeys (AS35916)?

2017-08-04 Thread Jima
Oops, following up a bit late. I was told yesterday that AS209 blocked their acceptance of 163.198.0.0/16 from AS35916 based on a number of complaints, which unfortunately left a path via their peering with NTT (which I presume they can't filter for $reasons). But then a short time later AS359

Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Krunal Shah
Does anyone know what is happening with Bell network at East Canada? http://canadianoutages.com/status/bell/map/ Krunal This electronic message contains information from Primus Management ULC ("PRIMUS") , which may be legally privileged and confidential. The i

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread jim deleskie
Cell and the internet all down here from Bell and those sharing their towers, also 911 services. Banking / ATM also impacted, no idea reason though. -jim Mimir Networks www.mimirnetworks.com On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Krunal Shah wrote: > Does anyone know what is happening with Bell net

Transparent Waves

2017-08-04 Thread Rod Beck
Can someone refer me to the ITU SPEC on transparent 10 gig wave service. I have a client is looking to lease two 10 gig waves but they do not want an Ethernet format. Just transparent. I want to make sure the carrier gets it right when they configure the service. Regards, Roderick. Roderic

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread J
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/much-of-atlantic-canada-loses-cellphone-service-in-widespread-outage/article35881182/ Apparently some fiber cut. No word on the exact model of construction equipment, yet, though. :\ On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 10:14:26 -0500 Krunal Shah

Weekly Routing Table Report

2017-08-04 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG MENOG, CaribNOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, IRNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread jim deleskie
Single fiber cut causes the much impact? -jim On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:59 PM, J wrote: > https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/much-of- > atlantic-canada-loses-cellphone-service-in-widespread-outage/ > article35881182/ > > > > Apparently some fiber cut. No word on the exact model of co

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Rod Beck
Everyone has a resilient network until they don't. 😊 From: NANOG on behalf of jim deleskie Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 8:07 PM To: J Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Bell outage Single fiber cut causes the much impact? -jim On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 2:59 PM, J wro

Re: [SPAM] Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Nate Metheny
:s/fiber/conduit On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Rod Beck wrote: > Everyone has a resilient network until they don't. 😊 > > > > From: NANOG on > behalf of jim deleskie > Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 8:07 PM > To: J > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: Bell outage >

Re: [SPAM] Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG
We have multiple redundant backup paths in case of a cut. The backup paths run about 1 mm away from the primary path in the same cable in the same conduit. ;) On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Nate Metheny wrote: > :s/fiber/conduit > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Rod Beck > wrote: > >> Ever

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Alain Hebert
Well, Saying they provided you with geographically diverse circuits versus actually doing it, happen way too often. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Ken Chase
And can be hard to know without serious dilligence - two of our upstreams happened to go through the same 360 networks conduit in montreal that "saw significant rodent activity". Both were down for 6 hours. A couple customers had some custom apps that relied on the two, each as redundancy to the ot

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Mike Hammett
They can still be incorrect, but KMZs or shapefiles of my route or no deal. Accurate ones too, none of this line running through the middle of a house crap. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Me

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Makes me wonder what the GIS department is like at $BIGCARRIER and how such a workgroup of specialists interfaces with their in house OSP fiber teams (and those responsible for acquiring IRUs, leasing and documenting third party dark, etc). On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Ken Chase wrote: > And

RE: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Naslund, Steve
It can be really impossible with multiple carriers because even if you get a geographically diverse route on day 1, carriers are constantly grooming and reconfiguring and since each carrier does not monitor the other ones architecture they cannot even know that they are ruining your redundancy b

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Alain Hebert
Well, We have a case where 2 paths, between 151 front to somewhere in Markham, ended up overlapping 3 times for about 300m total :( And to cap the whole thing off... Enter the building thru the same conduit. You pretty much need to be onsite supervising the whole thing up.

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Rod Beck
Well, imagine what happens when you have a body of water like Lake Ontario separating the key hubs on each side of the border, 151 Front Street and 350 Main Street. The fiber is probably stacked parallel around the lake and at certain points is collapsed into one right of way. - R. _

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Harald Koch
On 4 August 2017 at 16:54, Rod Beck wrote: > Well, imagine what happens when you have a body of water like Lake Ontario > separating the key hubs on each side of the border, 151 Front Street and > 350 Main Street. The fiber is probably stacked parallel around the lake and > at certain points is c

Re: Bell outage

2017-08-04 Thread Rod Beck
I am pretty sure most of the fiber runs counterclockwise from Toronto to Buffalo. Just a fact. - R. From: Jason Lixfeld Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 11:48 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: nanog@nanog.org; aheb...@pubnix.net Subject: Re: Bell outage I think having a lake r