RE: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread Dennis Burgess
In the end, google has made a choice. I think these kinds of choices will delay IPv6 adoption. -Original Message- From: Damien Burke [mailto:dam...@supremebytes.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:51 PM To: Mark Tinka ; Owen DeLong ; Dennis Burgess Cc: North American Network Operator

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/13/16 7:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > In the end, google has made a choice. I think these kinds of choices will > delay IPv6 adoption. Given that they publish records for a great deal of their services I'm not sure how you would conclude that. > -Original Message- > From: Da

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread Matthew Kaufman
I come to the opposite conclusion - that this situation can persist with apparently no business impact to either party shows that IPv6 is still unnecessary. Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > > In the end, google has made a choice. I

Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

2016-03-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Roland Dobbins wrote: On 13 Mar 2016, at 3:03, George Herbert wrote: It's a symptom of trying to save a few cents at the risk of dollars. Concur 100%. Not to mention the related security issues. Just remember, no exceptions, no waivers. I understand why cloud vendors

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread Doug Barton
s/IPv6/Cogent/ :) No one who is serious about IPv6 is single-homed to Cogent. Arguably, no one who is serious about "The Internet" is single-homed on either protocol. Thus your conclusion seems to be more like wishful thinking. :) Doug On 03/13/2016 11:20 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: I come

Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

2016-03-13 Thread George Herbert
I really don't care about AWS sales (customer, but not investor or employee). But... If it's not highly loaded, cloud is cheaper. If it's not in a well run datacenter / machine room, cloud is FAR more reliable. The cost of blowing up hardware in less than well run machine rooms / datacenters

Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

2016-03-13 Thread Lee
On 3/13/16, Sean Donelan wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Roland Dobbins wrote: >> On 13 Mar 2016, at 3:03, George Herbert wrote: >> >>> It's a symptom of trying to save a few cents at the risk of dollars. >> >> Concur 100%. >> >> Not to mention the related security issues. > > Just remember, no exce

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
I don’t know of any universal standards, but I’ve used the following in several installatins I was responsible for to good avail: Twisted Pair: RED:Untrusted Network (Internet or possibly DMZ) YELLOW: Optional for DMZ networks though I preferred to avoid documented in [1] below BLUE: Trust

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:50 , Damien Burke wrote: > > Just received an updated statement from cogent support: > > "We appreciate your concerns. This is a known issue that originates with > Google as it is up to their discretion as to how they announce routes to us > v4 or v6. > > Once again

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On 13 March 2016 at 19:20, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > I come to the opposite conclusion - that this situation can persist with > apparently no business impact to either party shows that IPv6 is still > unnecessary. > It does in fact have business impact on Cogent (but not Google). It means that so

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Yardiel Fuentes wrote: > Have any of you had the option or; conversely, do you know of “best > practices" or “common standards”, to color code physical cabling for your > connections in DataCenters for Base-T and FX connections? If so, Could you > share any ttype

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > No one who is serious about IPv6 is single-homed to Cogent. Arguably, no one > who is serious about "The Internet" is single-homed on either protocol. At the very least, no one who is clueful about "The Internet" is single-homed to Cogent with

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hi, What is the best solution for thin 2 mm or 0.9 mm fiber labelling? I like the idea of wrap around labels but does that work on thin wires? Maybe use something to pad the wire to more thickness where the label is to be? Regards, Baldur

Re: Why the US Government has so many data centers

2016-03-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Lee wrote: Where does it say test/dev has to be done solely in a cloud data center? This bit For the purposes of this memorandum, rooms with at least one server, providing services (whether in a production, test, stage, development, or any other environment), are consi

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Nick Pratley
Hi Baldur, Equinix in Sydney use the below, for Cross Connects. Goes around the fiber to pad it out, and the label keeps it on the fiber. http://www.cableorganizer.com/panduit/labelcore-cable-id-sleeve/ Been meaning to order some for internal use, too. Nick

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 18:14 , Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > Hi, > > What is the best solution for thin 2 mm or 0.9 mm fiber labelling? I like > the idea of wrap around labels but does that work on thin wires? Maybe use > something to pad the wire to more thickness where the label is to be? I doub

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
The only problem I’ve had with those is that they tend to slide down the fiber and you can end up having to trace the fiber to find the label which sort of defeats the purpose. Owen > On Mar 13, 2016, at 18:33 , Nick Pratley > wrote: > > Hi Baldur, > > Equinix in Sydney use the below, for C

Re: Juniper MX Sizing

2016-03-13 Thread Colton Conor
Brad, Did you ever get the numbers for the MX480? On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Brad Fleming wrote: > We haven’t received the MX480 gear yet (POs just went in about a week > ago). But we tested MX960s with the same RE-S-1800x4 w/ 16GB RAM RIB+FIB > convergence time was roughly 45sec. We never

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
Just place a piece of tape under the padding and it won't slide anymore. 5 seconds of extra work per end, though. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > The only problem I’ve had with those is that they tend to slide down the > fiber and you can > end up having to trace the fiber

Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:21:48 -0400, "Oliver O'Boyle" said: > Just place a piece of tape under the padding and it won't slide anymore. 5 > seconds of extra work per end, though. I dunno. Your dexterity must be better than mine. I'd have trouble digging up the roll of tape, removing a section, putt

Re: Juniper MX Sizing

2016-03-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Mar/16 04:02, Colton Conor wrote: > Brad, > > Did you ever get the numbers for the MX480? I would not expect a difference in performance for the MX480 vis a vis the MX960 using the same RE's, MPC's and SCB's. Mark.