Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On 15/Jun/15 03:01, Randy Bush wrote: > what i have yet to understand (probably my fault) is how L(3) propagated > the disease or, more correctly, what has happened over there that they > did not stop the propagation? the crew that went there from mci ran a > very tight ship and L(3) has always

Looking for reputable seller of SFPs

2015-06-15 Thread Hank Nussbacher
Looking for a reputable seller of SFPs in the US that ships overseas. Please reply off-list. Thanks, Hank

Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?

2015-06-15 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> From: Rafael Possamai > ... I assume they would have to, granted the issue lasted for a > couple hours. Now, it depends on how they define the outage A L3 outage is something you manage to open a ticket for, if you don't then it didn't happen (been there before, one of their DC lost power, tra

RE: [SPAM]Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?

2015-06-15 Thread Evan Moore
Absolutely on point. Let's solve the problem, not the blame. ERM Evan R Moore Network Engineer and Bitwrangler Sovernet Communications -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:02 PM To: North American Network O

Re: 2.4Ghz 40Mhz 802.11n wifi and Apple Macbook

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
It'd be nice if IEEE would start supporting smaller channel sizes and a sync method in the 802.11 specifications. make the default channel size 5 MHz and it auto increases as necessary. 20 meg Internet could get by just fine on interference free 5 MHz. Have a 1588-like sync mechanism sent from t

Re: Apple ECN, Bufferbloat, CoDel (fwd)

2015-06-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:20:31PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > Hi, > > I just want to bring to your attention the below talk (I am too lazy to > re-write the whole email for this slightly different audience). > > Takeaway: > > We'll see a lot of ECN enabled traffic in a few months. Thi

Re: Setting Up a Looking Glass

2015-06-15 Thread Hicks, Byron
True. However, this is not a Microsoft Windows app, so the installer isn’t in play here. The file is a .tar.gz file that contains the perl scripts necessary to set up the looking glass/router proxy, so it should be reasonably safe. Hopefully, the University of Indiana will move the source t

RE: Looking for reputable seller of SFPs

2015-06-15 Thread Mark Borchers
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Re: Apple ECN, Bufferbloat, CoDel (fwd)

2015-06-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/15/15 6:19 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:20:31PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just want to bring to your attention the below talk (I am too lazy to >> re-write the whole email for this slightly different audience). >> >> Takeaway: >> >> We'll see a l

Re: Apple ECN, Bufferbloat, CoDel (fwd)

2015-06-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:13 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 6/15/15 6:19 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:20:31PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just want to bring to your attention the below talk (I am too lazy to >>> re-write the whole email for this sli

Re: 2.4Ghz 40Mhz 802.11n wifi and Apple Macbook

2015-06-15 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 6/14/15 9:56 PM, Alexander Maassen wrote: Shoot me if i'm wrong, but doesn't a mac prefer MIMO in order to work correctly? You still get a nice performance boost with 802.11b/g/n in 2.4 range even at 20mhz, but if you go to 40mhz, you'll be splattering all over the entire 2.4 band. This

Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
I have a mail system where there are two MX hosts, one in the US and one in Europe. Both have a DNS MX record metric of 10 so a bastardized round-robin takes place. This does not work so well when one site goes down. My solution will be to place a load balancer in a hosting site (virtual, of co

RE: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Jürgen Jaritsch
I guess there is no real chance without conntrack ... I'll try to use something like LVS+mysql conntrack (no idea if this even exists ...) Jürgen Jaritsch Head of Network & Infrastructure ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH Telefon: +43-5-0556-300 Telefax: +43-5-0556-500 E-Mail: j...@a

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread John Orthoefer
Well we, Genuity, use to use Cisco Distributed Director to do this. Basically it was a DNS server that ran on a Cisco Router, and could use a lot of different metrics to give an answer, which included routing based metrics. Johno > On Jun 15, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > > I h

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote: > I guess there is no real chance without conntrack ... I'll try to use > something like LVS+mysql conntrack (no idea if this even exists ...) not clear how helpful that is? > -Original Message- > From: Joe Hamelin [j...@nethe

Re: Setting Up a Looking Glass

2015-06-15 Thread Jeff Walter
Having written two looking glasses from scratch (lg.he.net and and internal one for Weebly) I can tell you it's actually pretty simple. If you're interested in writing your own I'm happy to pass along pointers to help you. Jeff On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Hicks, Byron wrote: > True. > > Ho

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > My solution will be to place a load balancer in a hosting site > (virtual, of course) and have it provide HA. But what about HA for the > LB? At first glance anycasting would seem to be a great idea but there is > a problem of broken sessio

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > > I have a mail system where there are two MX hosts, one in the US and one in > Europe. Both have a DNS MX record metric of 10 so a bastardized > round-robin takes place. This does not work so well when one site goes > down. My solution wi

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 'when one site goes down' ... then the other works fine, right? smtp > is not latency sensitive in the sense that a 30second timeout for a > server will mean delivery to the secondary... right? The two MX

Re: 2.4Ghz 40Mhz 802.11n wifi and Apple Macbook

2015-06-15 Thread Colton Conor
So assuming you live in a decent sized house/lot, should you really care about squatting all over the entire band? I mean sure I can see my neighbors wifi signals, but they are too weak for me to connect with them. So wouldn't mine be just as weak at their location, so why should I care about using

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 15/06/2015 19:09, William Herrin wrote: > Anycast + TCP = much pain, for reasons which should be obvious. This was presented at some conference or other a couple of years ago: > https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog37/presentations/matt.levine.pdf Nick

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Guillaume Tournat
Give a look at hosted GSLB service, FortiDirector, which I have set up for a customer (for SMTP, Exchange, ActiveSync world wide services. > Le 15 juin 2015 à 19:50, Joe Hamelin a écrit : > > I have a mail system where there are two MX hosts, one in the US and one in > Europe. Both have a D

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: > Or you could skip the MX records, and just put both US and European > SMTP servers on the same IP address, which would save a lot of > steps and simplify the system, but leave you with the _very_ > occasional corner-case of someone equal-path

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Okay, granted you can probably cover your corner case here with a > priority 20 MX that leads to a unicast address on one of the two > servers. SMTP can let the rare fellow with the bisected packet flow > gracefully fall back. but 'well beh

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Joe, On 15 Jun 2015, at 13:50, Joe Hamelin wrote: I have a mail system where there are two MX hosts, one in the US and one in Europe. Both have a DNS MX record metric of 10 so a bastardized round-robin takes place. This does not work so well when one site goes down. My solution will b

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 15/06/2015 19:09, William Herrin wrote: >> Anycast + TCP = much pain, for reasons which should be obvious. > > This was presented at some conference or other a couple of years ago: > >> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog37/presentations

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > The two MX sites are connected via third party MPLS. The problem is when > one MX site loses Internet connectivity the sending MTA may take up to 4 > hours to resend and hopefully the DNS coin toss gives it the address of the > site that is st

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Max Tulyev
I see no major problems to use anycast for that. The problem will be in rare case when particular routing chain from client to one of your servers will be changed until TCP stream is active. SMTP have short connections. Even if it happens, it will look as just broken connection for client, and it

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread John Levine
>but 'well behaved smtp clients' should already be falling back right? If you have multiple SMTP servers at the same priority, it's a pretty broken client that doesn't try them all until one works. That said, there is a depressing number of pretty broken SMTP clients. R's, John

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Abley
On 15 Jun 2015, at 15:05, Dave Taht wrote: I have been using anycast at a small scale on mesh networks, for dns, primarily. Works. Many of us have been using anycast at Internet scale for DNS for a couple of decades. I would go further than "works" and perhaps say "necessary". There were s

Paging Versaweb!

2015-06-15 Thread Andy Blanchard
Is there anyone from Versaweb on the list, or anyone in the NOC at all? Firstly, both the contact addresses you have listed in WHOIS (ipadmin@ and abuse-reports@) are bouncing emails - no such user. More urgently, while trialling a new SIEM tool I've identified literally thousands of unique IPs s

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Rafael Possamai
I could be mistaken, but you might get all of this done with AWS's Route53. I would read this: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/routing-policy.html#routing-policy-geo The other step would be to setup HA in each SMTP node (US and France) such as LB or Failover. Just an idea.

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote: > > > The other step would be to setup HA in each SMTP node (US and France) such > as LB or Failover. Just an idea. > > I'll look at the AWS doc, thanks. The mailserver is seldom the problem (it's an AS/400) but the ISP pipe experiences pr

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Joe Abley wrote: > On 15 Jun 2015, at 15:05, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I have been using anycast at a small scale on mesh networks, for dns, >> primarily. Works. > > > Many of us have been using anycast at Internet scale for DNS for a couple of > decades. I would go f

Re: 2.4Ghz 40Mhz 802.11n wifi and Apple Macbook

2015-06-15 Thread Ricky Beam
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:17:52 -0400, Colton Conor wrote: So assuming you live in a decent sized house/lot, should you really care about squatting all over the entire band? I mean sure I can see my neighbors wifi signals... *DING* There's your problem. It doesn't matter if you can link and pass

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Rafael Possamai
You're welcome. I hope that helps. On another note, if your internet pipe in Europe isn't as stable as your pipe in the US, then you could also try and have your infrastructure provider blend your uplink with two or more carrier-grade paths. You wouldn't have to worry about signing up for and main

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Rafael Possamai wrote: > You're welcome. I hope that helps. > > On another note, if your internet pipe in Europe isn't as stable as your > pipe in the US, then you could also try and have your infrastructure > provider blend your uplink with two or more carrier-gr

RE: 2.4Ghz 40Mhz 802.11n wifi and Apple Macbook

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Mikulasik
Is this one of those requirements that gets ignored? I have seen plenty of 40Mhz SSIDs polluting spectrum in areas with lots of overlapping APs. Steve Mikulasik -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ricky Beam Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:58 PM To

Re: Setting Up a Looking Glass

2015-06-15 Thread John Fraizer
http://mrlg.op-sec.us/ -- John Fraizer LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnfraizer/ On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > What's out there for setting up your own looking glass? I saw lots of > lists of dead projects or projects that hadn't received any love in

Re: 2.4Ghz 40Mhz 802.11n wifi and Apple Macbook

2015-06-15 Thread Ricky Beam
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:09:16 -0400, Steve Mikulasik wrote: Is this one of those requirements that gets ignored? I have seen plenty of 40Mhz SSIDs polluting spectrum in areas with lots of overlapping APs. It's not supposed to be. But what is (originally) submitted for testing and what you g

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Randy Bush
> "What about IPv6? We have a plan! We plan to be dead before customers > demand IPv6". > I am pretty sure the authors are still alive(?). and customer demand for ipv6 still holds strong, right? > I have been using anycast at a small scale on mesh networks, for dns, > primarily. Works. dns is ud

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Dave Taht
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> "What about IPv6? We have a plan! We plan to be dead before customers >> demand IPv6". >> I am pretty sure the authors are still alive(?). > > and customer demand for ipv6 still holds strong, right? Does seem to be on the uptick! >> I have be

Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread John Orthoefer
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > > dns is udp 15 years ago when we set up 4.2.2.1, there was a fair amount of TCP based DNS. We tried for a bit to support it via the anycast address, but ultimately we decided the support issues weren’t worth it. The few customers that a