Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

> I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would > be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. It's definitely quite different from the CLI. I'm still dabbling, but the guys here who have been through the training and are immersed in it really like it.

Re: IP DSCP across the Internet

On 6 May 2015 at 03:27, Blake Dunlap wrote: > If there isn't a specific peering agreement which sets up DSCP marks > with your Z side, you're going to have a bad time doing anything other > than remarking to 0. > > -Blake This. You can't really put SLAs on traffic that has to egress/ingress the

Re: IP DSCP across the Internet

On Wed, 6 May 2015, Mark Tinka wrote: With color-aware policing toward a customer in Uganda, any traffic coming from that peer in South Africa was getting dropped toward that customer in Uganda. After a very odd sequence of troubleshooting events, we found that the AF DSCP alues being set by t

Re: IP DSCP across the Internet

On 7/May/15 11:12, James Bensley wrote: > > > This. > > You can't really put SLAs on traffic that has to egress/ingress the > Internet, if you try to you're asking for trouble, so we simply remark > to 0 on all inbound traffic. And this is what sales and marketing droids don't get - so-called "P

Re: IP DSCP across the Internet

That sounds like a rather poor implementation. What if they had more than one VoIP call? Seems like this thread has more FUD than real examples. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" To: "Mark

Re: Network Segmentation Approaches

Ah...got it, this was sloppy phrasing on my part. I meant "first" in the sense of "first rule that one should write". Depending on the firewall type/implementation, that might be the rule that's lexically first or last (or maybe somewhere else). ---rsk

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

Forgot to send this yesterday… We use them in our networks along with ASR9Ks and MXs. There are a lot of them deployed around the world doing very similar things as ASRs and MXs. The config is more like Juniper than Cisco IMHO. Being kind of the “3rd” vendor they have a tendency to implemen

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

+1 for the command structure and configuration being pretty simple to follow if you're used to a Cisco or Juniper. In the main they are pretty good at what they do I guess but I'm not sure whether or not we're having seriously bad luck or there's something else a miss but sadly we've had a nea

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

> On May 6, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > I am worried as most tech's know Cisco and Juniper, so going to ALU would > be a learning curve based on replies I am getting off list. It’s not that hard to learn if you know the basics of IP routing. I just did an implementation of A-L 7

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

yep.. its way easier and faster to take a look at what is configured: A:R01>config>service>vprn# interface "to-what-ever-eBGP" A:R01>config>service>vprn>if# info -- description "L3 Ckt ID: " enable-ingress-stat

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

And if you ever need to find out what can commands exist for a certain string "xxx" tree flat detail | match xxx is a huge helper when learning. e.g. A:router# tree flat detail | match aspath-regex show router bgp routes [ [type ]] aspath-regex show router bgp routes [ []] aspath-regex On Th

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get lazy. They simply can't seem to operate

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

Josh Reynolds writes: > It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so > worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one > thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these > batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get > lazy. T

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so worried about > a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one thing about the big > vendors that bothers me, it's that these batteries of vendor specific tests > have allowed many "techs" to get lazy. They simply can't seem to op

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

*grumble, grumble, grumble* "Get off my lawn!" :) On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote: > >Josh Reynolds writes: > >> It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so >> worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one >> thing about the big vendors

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we get a blank stare. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom wrote: > > Josh Reynolds writes: > > > It really bothers me to see that people in this i

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs. Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper, HP, mikrot

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

More like "at least be willing to man up and learn your way around some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business need for it". -r Josh Reynolds writes: > *grumble, grumble, grumble* > "Get off my lawn!" > :) > > > On May 7, 2015 8:49:43 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote: > >

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

LOL :) On May 7, 2015 9:38:15 AM AKDT, Rob Seastrom wrote: > >More like "at least be willing to man up and learn your way around >some platform other than RHEL without whining if there is a business >need for it". > >-r > >Josh Reynolds writes: > >> *grumble, grumble, grumble* >> "Get off my law

Huawei and ZTE Routers

The other thread about the Alcatel-Lucent routers has been pleasantly delightful. Our organization used to believe that Juniper, Cisco, and Brocade were the only true vendors for carrier grade routing, but now we are going to throw Alcatel-Lucent into the mix. ZTE and Huawei, the big chinese vendo

Re: Huawei and ZTE Routers

Colton Conor writes: > The other thread about the Alcatel-Lucent routers has been pleasantly > delightful. Our organization used to believe that Juniper, Cisco, and > Brocade were the only true vendors for carrier grade routing, but now we > are going to throw Alcatel-Lucent into the mix. > > ZT

Re: Huawei and ZTE Routers

On 5/7/2015 2:25 PM, Daniel Corbe wrote: Colton Conor writes: The other thread about the Alcatel-Lucent routers has been pleasantly delightful. Our organization used to believe that Juniper, Cisco, and Brocade were the only true vendors for carrier grade routing, but now we are going to throw

RE: IP DSCP across the Internet

seems pretty real to me, I know we (AS11404) mark to zero on ingress... I think that is the typical case otherwise people would just tag their flood style ddos traffic as max and try to take out everything. John From: NANOG [nanog-boun...@nanog.org] on

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--- Begin Message --- On 7/May/15 15:16, Phil Bedard wrote: > Forgot to send this yesterday… > > We use them in our networks along with ASR9Ks and MXs. There are a lot of > them deployed around the world doing very similar things as ASRs and MXs. > The config is more like Juniper than Cisco

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--- Begin Message --- On 5/6/15, 4:56 PM, "Randy Bush" wrote: >a fellow researcher wants > >> to make the case that in some scenarios it is very important for a >> network operator to be able to specify that traffic should *not* >> traverse a certain switch/link/group of switches/gr

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--- Begin Message --- Well said Mark ... There's a certain large transit provider that this all the time and I never understood why ... Paul -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 5:32 AM To: Martin T; nanog@

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--- Begin Message --- > ZTE and Huawei, the big chinese vendors, have also been mentioned to > us. I know there are large national security issues with using these > vendors in the US uh, you have not seen the lovely picture of the nsa implanting a cisco? randy --- End Message ---

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--- Begin Message --- On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > Ah...got it, this was sloppy phrasing on my part. I meant "first" > in the sense of "first rule that one should write". Depending on Security best practice to always have an active "cleanup" rule for every traffic dir

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--- Begin Message --- Many of these churn rates result from problems self inflicted hence all the dramatic sdn promises, popularity in abstractions, Api all the things, let's go yang/netconf and retrofit every ietf standard. There's benefits but gotta rant a little. What's better than correct

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--- Begin Message --- What churn rates are you talking about? Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/07/2015 05:36 PM, Watson, Bob wrote: Many of these churn rates result from problems self inflicted hence all the dramatic sdn promises, popularity in abstractions, Api all the

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--- Begin Message --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Does anyone any else find it weird that the last dozen or so messages from the list have been .eml attachments? Or is it just me? - - ferg - -- Paul Ferguson PGP Public Key ID: 0x54DC85B2 Key fingerprint: 19EC 2945 FEE8 D6C

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--- Begin Message --- I've seen the same over here and also considered it weird. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Paul Ferguson via NANOG" To: "NANOG" Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:56:44 PM --- End Message

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--- Begin Message --- Seeing them here too. -- Joel Esler Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2015, at 9:58 PM, Paul Ferguson via NANOG mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: --- End Message ---

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List-Post: From: Nathan Angelacos via NANOG you are seeing the effect of whatever that new 'we will stop spam with dns records' process (not spf, not dkim ... the other one) On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Nathan Angelacos via NANOG wrote: > > > -- Forwarded me

Re:

On 08/05/15 11:58, Mike Hammett via NANOG wrote: > I've seen the same over here and also considered it weird. It looks exactly like the the DMARC senders treatment - I think there's something wiggy and everyone is being treated as a DMARC encumbered sender.

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There was an inadvertent DMARC handling setting applied to all posts. This has been corrected. Sorry for the disruption. Andrew Koch

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 5/7/2015 7:11 PM, Ted Cooper wrote: > On 08/05/15 11:58, Mike Hammett via NANOG wrote: >> I've seen the same over here and also considered it weird. > > It looks exactly like the the DMARC senders treatment - I think > there's something wiggy an

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 5/7/2015 7:23 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > I'm on a gazillion lists, and this is the only one which seems to > have this particularly annoying problem. And fixed! Apologies for the noise. - - ferg - -- Paul Ferguson PGP Public Key ID: 0x54DC8

Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

Carrier oem churn (turnover /agitation cycles) First mover for features happen and leapfrog but the ones that matter get adopted across the line in time. > On May 7, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > What churn rates are you talking about? > > Josh Reynolds > CIO, SPITwSPOTS > www.

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In message , Paul Ferguson via N ANOG writes: > > Does anyone any else find it weird that the last dozen or so messages > from the list have been .eml attachments? Nanog is encapsulating messages that are DKIM signed. Your mailer may not be properly handling Content-Type: message/rfc82

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In message , Andrew Koch writes : > There was an inadvertent DMARC handling setting applied to all posts. This h= > as been corrected. Sorry for the disruption.=20 > > Andrew Koch= It was also not copying the Subject: to the outer SMTP envelope. It would pay to check that this is being done to a