Re: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation

2015-04-08 Thread Mohamed Kamal
Here is Cisco's reply! “Given PCEP’s main use-case is inter-area TE tunnels (or SDN controller in TE environment) and ASR1K is not marketed for TE, support is unlikely” What is .. "not marketed for TE"?! All in all, I don't mind replacing them with some cheaper, powerful, flexible and SDN-read

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Rob Seastrom
Blair Trosper writes: > MaxMind (a great product) I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all address blocks assigned to a VPN vendor as "open proxy" even when advised repeatedly that the disputed addresses (a) had no VPN services running on them either inbound or outboun

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Max Tulyev
We operate IPv6 tunnel broker tb.netassist.ua, so /48 from our /32 is spread all around the world. Google change geo of our WHOLE /32 from time to time to another cute random place ;) One time Google decided we are in IRAN and block a lot of content as "not available in your country" o_O Unfortunat

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM, "Rob Seastrom" wrote: > > > Blair Trosper writes: > > > MaxMind (a great product) > > I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all > address blocks assigned to a VPN vendor as "open proxy" even when > advised repeatedly that the disputed addresses (a)

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2015-04-08 13:31, Max Tulyev wrote: > We operate IPv6 tunnel broker tb.netassist.ua, so /48 from our /32 is > spread all around the world. > Google change geo of our WHOLE /32 from time to time to another cute > random place ;) One time Google decided we are in IRAN and block a lot > of content

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Franklin
> That all said: Restricting content based on location is complete and > utter nonsense in 2015. The world is global, people want to pay for > content and the content owners just don't allow people to pay for it. Globalisation is for your corporate lords and masters to buy labour and raw material

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Colin Johnston
Globalisation only works if network abuse and network contacts follow best practice and engage. Else trade blocks and network country blocks are done and remain in place until certain countries ethically/practically do the right thing. Colin > On 8 Apr 2015, at 13:17, Tim Franklin wrote: > >>

RE: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
One of the downsides to having four (at least) different control plane operating systems across your product lines. Phil -Original Message- From: "Mohamed Kamal" Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 5:13 AM To: "NANOG" Subject: Re: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation Here is Cisco's reply! “Given PC

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Max Tulyev
On 04/08/15 14:56, Jeroen Massar wrote: > That stated, properly providing a WHOIS entry for each prefix > (inetnum/inet6num) is a good idea as that kind of indicates that that > prefix is fixed in that location and not just moving around. [skip] > Do make sure though that you do not show any fore

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Rob Seastrom
shawn wilson writes: > On Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM, "Rob Seastrom" <[[r...@seastrom.com]]> wrote: >> >> >> Blair Trosper <[[blair.tros...@gmail.com]]> writes: >> >> > MaxMind (a great product) >> >> I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all >> address blocks assigned to a VPN

Re: Cisco's IOS-XE and PCEP implementation

2015-04-08 Thread Mohamed Kamal
Yes, indeed! Things like VPLS, full-features ESI and PCEP exist on IOS-XR but not IOS and IOS-XE! ISSU and HA operates differently between IOS-XE and NX-OS! Their claim is not even logical, the ASR1k is supporting 600 TE tunnels head-end, and up-to 10k midpoint! So, if I had an average of 30 ASR1

Re: Consumer products with baked-in VLAN tagging

2015-04-08 Thread Dave Taht
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 05/04/2015 03:32, Robert Seastrom wrote: >> As you may know if you've played around with recent Apple Airports >> (Express at least) in bridge mode with "guest network" turned on, they >> seem to know about 802.1q and have fairly reasonable

100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Piotr
Hi, There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch, 1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module. regards, Peter

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Randy Carpenter
The Juniper QFX10002-36Q has 36 40GbE Ports. They can be broken out to up to 144 10GbE ports, or 1/3 of them can be used for 100GbE. So, if you use 6 100GbE ports and still have 72 10GbE ports. I have not seen one of these yet in person, but it is the smallest form factor I know of that has t

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Hockett, Roy
I did see these switches at SC14. http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/ Thanks, -Roy Hockett Network Architect, ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers University of Michigan Tel: (734) 763-7325 Fax: (734) 615-1727 email: roy...@umich.edu On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr wrote: > Hi, >

RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Klimakhin, Kirill
Cisco Nexus 7700 2 slot chassis supports 48 x 10 Gbps, 24 x 40 Gbps, and 12 x 100 Gbps. It is 3RU. Part number is N77-C7702. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Piotr Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 3:02 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: 100Gb/s T

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Furst, John-Nicholas
If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;) John-Nicholas Furst Hardware Engineer Office: +1.617.274.7212 Akamai Technologies 150 Broadway Cambridge, MA 02142 On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, "Hockett,

Re: Consumer products with baked-in VLAN tagging

2015-04-08 Thread Robert Seastrom
On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I do wish they had bufferbloat-fighting queue managment on the ISP > side, it is otherwise > pretty good hardware. As you're well aware since your name is in the acknowledgements, there's been some effort in this direction at CL. If the problem g

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Randy Carpenter
7700 2 slot looks to only support 1 line card, so 48x10 *or* 12x100 thanks, -Randy - On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Klimakhin, Kirill kirill.klimak...@corebts.com wrote: > Cisco Nexus 7700 2 slot chassis supports 48 x 10 Gbps, 24 x 40 Gbps, and 12 x > 100 Gbps. > > It is 3RU. Part number is

RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Klimakhin, Kirill
That is correct, I didn’t mean that it supports all three. Only one of the three combinations. Regards, Kirill -Original Message- From: Randy Carpenter [mailto:rcar...@network1.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:23 PM To: Klimakhin, Kirill Cc: Piotr; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: 100

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Randy Carpenter
25/50/100 stuff should start coming out around soon, as well, which may drive pricing down even more. thanks, -Randy - On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com wrote: > If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the > ability to down-clo

Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Daniel Rohan
I work at a state REN and we are seeking a lead for a new edge device for on prem deployment at customer sites. We currently deploy two classes of routers-- a high end and a low end. Both the high end and the low end use some of the standard edge features: MPLS-TE, MBGP, flowspec, vrf, PIM, etc. W

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Mikrotik for OS, and Hardware choice would be to use an X86 appliance (Lanner Electronics, Axiomtek etc) You should be able to get a cost effective box that will meet your performance requirements. As to feature set, while most of them are their you should do some testing to see if feature set m

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Josh Reynolds
No MPLS though, if that is a requirement. On 04/08/2015 05:11 PM, Tim Raphael wrote: VyOS is a community fork of Vyatta and is still being developed very actively and it pushing ahead with many new features! It's pretty stable too imo. http://vyos.net/wiki/Main_Page Regards, Tim Raphael On

Re: Consumer products with baked-in VLAN tagging

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Robert Seastrom wrote: > I'd really like to try these native IPv6 tests with my Verizon FIOS at home, > but I think I already know the outcome... you are cracking me up. srsly. v6 on fios? that'll be the day.

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Raphael
VyOS is a community fork of Vyatta and is still being developed very actively and it pushing ahead with many new features! It's pretty stable too imo. http://vyos.net/wiki/Main_Page Regards, Tim Raphael > On 9 Apr 2015, at 8:14 am, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > > Mikrotik for OS, and Hardware choic

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Hamish McGlinn
Is it a necessity to terminate the layer 3 at the edge? You could get a 10Gbps switch and move it all back to a central location where you have your high end routers. It would then be terminated as a VLAN and be a router on a stick kind of topology. Could be a cheaper way to do it without taking MP

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello Piotr, You can always take a look at : - Arista : http://www.arista.com/en/products/7280e-series - Brocade : http://www.brocade.com/products/all/switches/product-details/vdx-6940-switch/index.page HTH. BR. > Le 8 avr. 2015 à 21:01, Piotr a écrit : > > Hi, > > There is something l

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Colton Conor
When will Tomahawk switches be available? On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Marian Ďurkovič wrote: > Wait for switches with BCM Tomahawk ASICs. > > They'll support exactly what you're looking for. > >M. > > > On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:01:59 +0200, Piotr wrote > > Hi, > > > > There is something li

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Dave Bell
Mikrotik? I believe they support all these features other than maybe flowspec, and you can get a box with a 10G SFP+ port for around $500. On 8 April 2015 at 23:46, Daniel Rohan wrote: > I work at a state REN and we are seeking a lead for a new edge device for > on prem deployment at customer sit

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Raphael
Correct. But hopefully not far off now that there are x86 packages for simple MPLS operations. With a bit of luck an RSVP or LDP implementation isn't far behind. Regards, Tim Raphael > On 9 Apr 2015, at 9:14 am, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > No MPLS though, if that is a requirement. > >> On 04/0

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
Wait for switches with BCM Tomahawk ASICs. They'll support exactly what you're looking for. M. On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:01:59 +0200, Piotr wrote > Hi, > > There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch, > 1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Jackson
Woops, missed the full tables requirement there.. Never mind. On Apr 8, 2015 4:18 PM, "Tim Jackson" wrote: > Cisco ASR902 or Juniper ACX.. > On Apr 8, 2015 3:48 PM, "Daniel Rohan" wrote: > >> I work at a state REN and we are seeking a lead for a new edge device for >> on prem deployment at custo

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Watson, Bob
If referring to cavium xpa's hitting the oem's lines, next year or so I'm guessing. Bob Watson > On Apr 8, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > From which vendors? > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas > wrote: > >> If you can wait, you will see the market flood

RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
I think Brocade has one already announced. It might be based off the Trident2+ though, I can't remember. Either way, in 6 months everyone will have 1RU switches with 100G uplinks like they have 40G now. Phil -Original Message- From: "Colton Conor" Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 9:58 PM To: "Mari

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Jackson
Cisco ASR902 or Juniper ACX.. On Apr 8, 2015 3:48 PM, "Daniel Rohan" wrote: > I work at a state REN and we are seeking a lead for a new edge device for > on prem deployment at customer sites. > > We currently deploy two classes of routers-- a high end and a low end. Both > the high end and the lo

Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Colton Conor
>From which vendors? On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas wrote: > If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the > ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;) > > > John-Nicholas Furst > Hardware Engineer > > > Office: +1.61

RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
Everyone. These should also support 25/50G Ethernet. Phil -Original Message- From: "Colton Conor" Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 10:01 PM To: "Furst, John-Nicholas" Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch >From which vendors? On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas w

Re: Consumer products with baked-in VLAN tagging

2015-04-08 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Robert Seastrom wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I do wish they had bufferbloat-fighting queue managment on the ISP >> side, it is otherwise >> pretty good hardware. Again, I LOVE the apple gear - with stuart cheshire the godfather of t

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Tim Raphael wrote: > Correct. But hopefully not far off now that there are x86 packages for simple > MPLS operations. With a bit of luck an RSVP or LDP implementation isn't far > behind. Just sitting around whining and waiting for someone else to do the job is no

Re: Multi-gigabit edge devices as CPE

2015-04-08 Thread Watson, Bob
Dan, The new asr920 by cisco would fit 4x10g SFP+ and 24 ports SFP or copper 1g line rate about 6 k list without license . You can leverage netconf yang model as its cisco edge or other flavor choice You can unicast if you want more data as we've done EFI and evaluated them in our labs Bo