Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Carlos Alcantar
For access side (home users) we have slightly over provisioned there circuits, to minimize the "I¹m paying for 20 why am I getting 19" type of calls. Provision them out to 25 they get 23-24 on there speedtest everyone is happy. Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard

Re: Seeking VPS providers for low volume network probe

2014-10-30 Thread Karsten Elfenbein
Hi, did you have a look at https://atlas.ripe.net/ ? They have two types of probes that are already in place. Best regards Karsten 2014-10-29 21:05 GMT+01:00 Eric Germann : > > > Greetings, > > I'm looking for recommendations on a reliable VPS Provider(s) who can > provide > > 1. Centos 6 > 2.

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 15:24:46 -0700, keith tokash said: Is there an industry standard regarding how much bandwidth an inter-carrier circuit should guarantee? And where your PoPs are (and how many) matters as well - if you have a peering agr

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ben Sjoberg wrote: > That 3Mb difference is probably just packet overhead + congestion Yes... however, that's actually an industry standard of implying higher performance than reality, because end users don't care about the datagram overhead which their applica

Re: Seeking VPS providers for low volume network probe

2014-10-30 Thread Justin
I've used several off this list https://www.exoticvps.com/ On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Karsten Elfenbein < karsten.elfenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > did you have a look at https://atlas.ripe.net/ ? > They have two types of probes that are already in place. > > > Best regards > Karsten >

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
Still acting up for me this morning. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Doug Barton >> wrote: >> >>> Happy Eyeballs has nothing to do with it. This is a server >>> misconfiguration >>> plai

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
It is now working over IPv6 On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen < mailing-li...@brianraaen.com> wrote: > Still acting up for me this morning. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 10/29/14 12:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 29,

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, keith tokash wrote: > I'm sorry I should have been more specific. I'm referring to the > *percentage* of a circuit's bandwidth. For example if you order a > 20Mb site to site circuit and iperf shows 17Mb. Well ... that's 15% > off, which sounds hefty, but I'm not sure

AWS Contact

2014-10-30 Thread Blair Trosper
Could someone from AWS contact me off-list.

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Dorian Kim
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Ben Sjoberg wrote: > >> That 3Mb difference is probably just packet overhead + congestion > > Yes... however, that's actually an industry standard of implying > higher performance than reality, because end

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Rafael Possamai
You can't just ignore protocol overhead (or any system's overhead). If an application requires X bits per second of actual payload, then your system should be designed properly and take into account overhead, as well as failure rates, peak utilization hours, etc. This is valid for networking, autom

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > and this industry would > perhaps be better off if we called a link that can deliver at best 17 > Megabits of Goodput reliably a "15 Megabit goodput +5 service" > instead of calling it a "20 Megabit service" But you don't know what the user is going to do over the link. If the average pac

RE: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread keith tokash
I'm willing to recommend to sales people that they advertise the size of the *usable* tube as well as the tube overall, but I'm fairly sure they won't care. Ben rightly stated the order of operations: BS quote > disappointment > mea culpa/level setting. If that fails I'll at least make sure no

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Joe Greco
> You can't just ignore protocol overhead (or any system's overhead). If an > application requires X bits per second of actual payload, then your system > should be designed properly and take into account overhead, as well as > failure rates, peak utilization hours, etc. This is valid for networkin

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Mark Andrews
Useable data over a link depends on packet size. 56 byte IP packets at X Mbps 1500 byte IP packets at Y Mbps This is then comparable across link technologies and framings used on those technologies. You can then compare a DSL vs GPON vs Cable as provided by the ISP using Apples

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Javier J
Either is alcatel-lucent.com for the past 2 days I noticed. Ipv6 version of their site broken. On Oct 30, 2014 1:18 PM, "Brian Christopher Raaen" < mailing-li...@brianraaen.com> wrote: > It is now working over IPv6 > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Brian Christopher Raaen < > mailing-li...@br

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Mark Andrews
IPv6 is production. Report the problem. In message , Javier J writes: > Either is alcatel-lucent.com for the past 2 days I noticed. Ipv6 version of > their site broken. > On Oct 30, 2014 1:18 PM, "Brian Christopher Raaen" < > mailing-li...@brianraaen.com> wrote: > > > It is now working over

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Pete Carah
On 10/30/2014 06:27 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > IPv6 is production. Report the problem. > Sorry for reporting it here, but there seems to be more than one problem (the link resulting from clicking on "nist time". I get the nist front page fine on v6, then click on the time link and get a 404 lookin

Re: NIST NTP Server List

2014-10-30 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <5452d146.4080...@altadena.net>, Pete Carah writes: > On 10/30/2014 06:27 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > IPv6 is production. Report the problem. > > > Sorry for reporting it here, but there seems to be more than one problem > (the link resulting from clicking on "nist time". What does re

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?

2014-10-30 Thread Rafael Possamai
Yes, and no. If you are a given a limited resource (in this case, a physical port that can process no more than 1gbps for example) and your efficiency in transferring data over that port is not 100%, the provider itself is not to blame. Each and every protocol has limitations, and in this case we