Re: The Cidr Report

On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:51:56 -0700, Owen DeLong said: > Sounds like a Dish commercial… (James Earl Jones voice): Now imagine it again, but with Jim Cummings instead... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLXTDirrQ5w (Sorry, I couldn't resist... :) pgphEjXN1tGcc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: About NetFlow/IPFIX and DPI

Thank you Matt (offlist), Dan, Roland and Paolo for your answers ! Antoine. On 7 mai 2014, at 18:43, Paolo Lucente wrote: > Please note NBAR/NetFlow integration wanted to be an example of > using NetFlow/ IPFIX as a transport for DPI classification info > (where classification could be performe

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

That was an interesting read but it's not the whole story. Skip to the TL;DR if you'd like but I'll attempt to explain what happened. What he isn't saying is the roles of the companies involved have changed over the last 10 years. Mostly gone are the days that content providers and access networks

Re: The Cidr Report

On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > If the whole thing breaks, I'm taking a vacation. > > Dammit, I'm *on* vacation--don't break the whole thing! Matt > Andrew > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong > Sent: Fri

Odd syslog-ng problem

Hey, I got a weird problem with my syslog-ng setup, im logging from alot of cisco machines and that works great. The problem is that when i "pass" this further to a shell program, some lines disapere. My destination looks like this destination hosts { file("/var/log/ciscorouters/$HOST.log"

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

This is a lot of hand waving and self justification to attempt to validate the practice of [Access Network] trying to charge 3rd party entities to deliver the content that [Access Network]'s paying customers have requested over the service they already pay for, instead of [Access Network] having to

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

Nice discussion about history & motivations. Not completely correct, but it's always fun to argue over history, and over motivations, since both are open to intepretation. Personally, I am interested in the future, and specifically in market-driven solutions to our problems. Call me a capitalis

Re: Odd syslog-ng problem

Off topic. The issue is with the daemon, not your devices. https://lists.balabit.hu/mailman/listinfo/syslog-ng On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Peter Persson wrote: > Hey, > > I got a weird problem with my syslog-ng setup, im logging from alot of > cisco machines and that works great. > The pro

Re: Odd syslog-ng problem

Another off topic (question) - what kind of fronted UI you use with syslog-ng? I see log analyser based on PHP is common. In my tests it worked fine but it’s major issue I saw was that I couldn’t sort all logs based on individual hosts/devices. What kind of open source web UI everyone is using

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

The UK only does this with BT OpenReach since they were the telco monopoly that originated as a government entity. Virgin Media (well all the people who now form Virgin Media) built and operates their own fiber/HFC access networks, the same as MSOs in the US, and does not offer wholesale access an

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

I agree with your summary. -- -Barry Shein The World | b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD| Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die| Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

imiho think vi hart has it down simply and understandable by a lay person. . my friends in last mile providers disagree. i take that as a good sign. randy

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

It is important to consider bias and factual accuracy of the material. George Ou was working for Comcast and AT&T as a lobbyist at the time he produced the Youtube video. Drive Slow, Paul Wall On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Rick Astley wrote: > That was an interesting read but it's not the wh

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

The pertinent question is what time period Level 3 was looking at / averaging when writing the blog post. Even if Comcast and Level 3 are not congested right at this moment, they were most definitely congested several years following their landmark agreement. A better question would be why that i

Re: Odd syslog-ng problem

I use kibana / elasticsearch -Blake On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: > Another off topic (question) - what kind of fronted UI you use with > syslog-ng? I see log analyser based on PHP is common. In my tests it worked > fine but it’s major issue I saw was that I couldn’t so

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

If we ignore why and how the few high speed options exist for a moment and accept that it's "the way it is," then it seems reasonable that the place to put regulation is on them. At the same time cutting out middlemen is generally good for everyone but the middlemen. My current opinion then is

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality

++1 Andrew Fried andrew.fr...@gmail.com On 5/10/14, 2:42 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Nice discussion about history & motivations. Not completely correct, but it's > always fun to argue over history, and over motivations, since both are open > to intepretation. > > Personally, I am interest

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

In these situations, I find it helps to mentally implement structural separation. So you have level3-Transit and Level3-CDN as separate companies. Netflix pays Level3-CDN to make content available locally in many cities. It is up to the ISP to find the most efficient way to connect to the Level3

Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality (was: Wow its been quiet here...

On May 10, 2014 at 22:34 ra...@psg.com (Randy Bush) wrote: > imiho think vi hart has it down simply and understandable by a lay > person. . my > friends in last mile providers disagree. i take that as a good sign. Yeah, well, for extra c

Re: Odd syslog-ng problem

It's hard to say without seeing the actual script. Is your script running as a daemon or are you counting on syslog-ng to start your program per message. If the latter, that's probably not the best strategy. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Peter Persson wrote: > Hey, > > I got a weird problem