On (2013-12-20 03:24 +), Dobbins, Roland wrote:
> > I think ipv4 udp is just going to become operationally deprecated. Too
> > much pollution. It is really an epic amount of trash / value ratio in ipv4
> > udp.
>
> This isn't a realistic viewpoint.
What are realistic options?
a) QUIC an
On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:
> c) ACL/RPF in significant portion of access ports in whole world
>- i'm guessing significant portion of access ports are on autopilot with
> no one to change their configs, so probably not practical.
d) The current state of affairs pers
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
> I'm almost afraid to ask about the phrase "add-default-route=yes" in the
> dhcp-client configuration. That seems wrong on the face of it since you
> should be getting your routing information from RA and not DHCP.
No, no, no, a thousand times no. I'
On 12/20/13 7:36 AM, "Jamie Bowden" wrote:
>> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
>
>> I'm almost afraid to ask about the phrase "add-default-route=yes" in the
>> dhcp-client configuration. That seems wrong on the face of it since you
>> should be getting your routing information from RA
On 12/20/2013 12:30 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I'd like to encourage people to use prefix-hint=::/48.
>>
>> The router should accept the /60 and deal with it, but it's better to have
>> Comcast's logs show that you requested a proper full-size prefix.
>>
>> I'm almost afraid to ask about the phras
> From: Lee Howard [mailto:l...@asgard.org]
> On 12/20/13 7:36 AM, "Jamie Bowden" wrote:
> >> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
> >> I'm almost afraid to ask about the phrase "add-default-route=yes" in the
> >> dhcp-client configuration. That seems wrong on the face of it since you
> >>
On 12/20/13 8:07 AM, "Jamie Bowden" wrote:
>
>
>> "Parity" isn't enough information; what features are missing? RA is
>>part
>> of IPv6, but you don't have to use SLAAC.
>> I'd say it's the DHC people who need to hear it, not the IPv6 people,
>>but
>> YMMV.
>
>I have a question. Why does DHCP
With RA, what is the smallest interval failover will work? Compare that with
NHRP such as HSRP, VRRP, etc with sub-second failover.
In corporate networks most of the non-client systems will be statically
addressed with privacy addresses turned off. This is for regulatory, audit,
security and mo
Thus spake Jamie Bowden (ja...@photon.com) on Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 01:07:27PM
+:
> > From: Lee Howard [mailto:l...@asgard.org]
> > On 12/20/13 7:36 AM, "Jamie Bowden" wrote:
> > >> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
>
>
> > >> I'm almost afraid to ask about the phrase "add-default-r
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:36:38 +, Jamie Bowden said:
> How many times do the IPv6 people have to hear that until DHCPv6 reaches
> feature parity with DCHPv4, IPv6 is dead to enterprise networks?
How many times do the IPv4 people have to hear that many sites are running
IPv6 on enterprise network
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:36:38 +, Jamie Bowden said:
>> How many times do the IPv6 people have to hear that until DHCPv6 reaches
>> feature parity with DCHPv4, IPv6 is dead to enterprise networks?
>
> How many times do the IPv4 people have to hear that
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On 12/20/2013 05:25 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
So there's an interesting question. You suggest there's a disagreement
between enterprise network operators and protocol designers. Who should
change?
Rather obviously the protocol designers, since they are clearly out of
touch with real-world require
On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:
> With RA, what is the smallest interval failover will work? Compare that with
> NHRP such as HSRP, VRRP, etc with sub-second failover.
RA and VRRP are not mutually exclusive. What you can’t have (currently) is
routing information distributed b
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:16:57 -0500, Doug Barton
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On 12/20/2013 05:25 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
So there's an interesting question. You suggest there's a disagreement
between enterprise network operators and protocol designers. Who should
change?
Rather obviously the protocol designers,
On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:
>
>> With RA, what is the smallest interval failover will work? Compare that with
>> NHRP such as HSRP, VRRP, etc with sub-second failover.
>
> RA and VRRP are not mutually exclusive. What y
On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Matthew Huff wrote:
>
> On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:
>>
>>> With RA, what is the smallest interval failover will work? Compare that
>>> with NHRP such as HSRP, VRRP, etc with sub-seco
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:50:12 -0500, Matthew Huff said:
> There is a lot of cruft out there in the enterprise
> world that claims IPv6 compatibility, but in the real world doesn't work
> consistently. Almost all can be made to work, but require custom
> configuration.
The exact same
>
> Not all devices have working IPv6 stacks. OK, they’re broken, complain to the
> vendor and get them to fix their product or buy a working product from a
> different vendor.
>
I don't know that this is a practical option... for say some systems I
know that don't do v6 properly or at all, and
In message
,
Christopher Morrow writes:
> >
> > Not all devices have working IPv6 stacks. OK, they're broken, complain
> > to the vendor and get them to fix their product or buy a working product
> > from a different vendor.
> >
>
> I don't know that this is a practical option... for say some sy
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Owen,
Have you ever worked in a corporate environment? Replacing equipment can be a
5-7 year window and has to be justified and budgeted. Replacing a piece of
equipment because it's an incomplete IPv6 implementation (which has changed
considerably as it has been deployed), isn't feasible. Ther
You can request a fully working IPv6 implementation, but it's not going to stop
a purchasing if it doesn't. If you are deciding between two vendors and one is
better/cheaper and doesn't have IPv6 and you choose the other, it's likely you
will be looking for another job. There is no strong justif
On Dec 20, 2013, at 14:27 , Matthew Huff wrote:
> You can request a fully working IPv6 implementation, but it's not going to
> stop a purchasing if it doesn't. If you are deciding between two vendors and
> one is better/cheaper and doesn't have IPv6 and you choose the other, it's
> likely you
On Dec 20, 2013, at 14:16 , Matthew Huff wrote:
> Owen,
>
> Have you ever worked in a corporate environment? Replacing equipment can be a
> 5-7 year window and has to be justified and budgeted. Replacing a piece of
> equipment because it's an incomplete IPv6 implementation (which has changed
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Matthew Huff wrote:
> Owen,
>
> Have you ever worked in a corporate environment? Replacing equipment can
> be a 5-7 year window and has to be justified and budgeted. Replacing a
> piece of equipment because it's an incomplete IPv6 implementation (which
> has chang
Anyone happen to have a contact at Verizon that can actually get an IP
delisted in their mail blacklist? I've been attempting to get an IP
delisted with Verizon for quite some time, and haven't had luck through
their web form (
http://my.verizon.com/micro/whitelist/RequestForm.aspx?id=isp), the
- Original Message -
> From: "Mike Schwartz"
> That urks me, too. In many web sites that have a state field, you can
> at least type the first letter of your state, but you still have to use the
> mouse, unless your state is the first one that starts with any given
> letter.
> When I type
SRX650 IDP caps at 1gb imix; BGP and OSPF in cluster won't be a
problem...but your running up against resource limits if you need to grow.
Juniper has a good write up on active active SRX deployments and offer 3gb
IDP imix on the 1400.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 23:21:08PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Mike Schwartz"
>
> > That urks me, too. In many web sites that have a state field, you can
> > at least type the first letter of your state, but you still have to use the
> > mouse, unless your
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