Re: Suggestion on Fiber tester

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List wrote: (snip) $1000 You might get a JDSU OLP meter for that sort of money... http://www.jdsu.com/en-us/test-and-measurement/products/a-z-product-list/Pages/olp-smart.aspx I've used one of theirs (and a matching source) for buzzing out links

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... /bill On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 06:45:02AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > Each site should get at least a /48. > > Stop worrying about dense-packing the IP space in IPv6. This is IPv4-think. > IPv6 is intended to be sparsely allocated. > > Ow

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On 2013-09-26 08:52, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... Yeah, but who doesn't run CIDR now? Get everyone in the IPv6 pool now; we'll inevitably add hacks later

Re: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

On 26/09/2013 03:04, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > It's not a fiber cut. It did come back for a while at least. > > > > This is data from RIPEstat / RIPE Atlas: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/sudan-internet-disruptions n

Re: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

On 26/09/2013 12:23, Emile Aben wrote: > On 26/09/2013 03:04, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: >> It's not a fiber cut. It did come back for a while at least. >> >> >> >> > This is data from RIPEstat / RIPE Atlas: > > https://labs.ripe.n

RE: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

Of course it is entirely possible that it was the rioters simply because they wanted people to notice. And I guess it worked. > -Original Message- > From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 25 September, 2013 18:43 > To: Tammy Firefly > Cc:

gmail.com contact

Hi list, We had a user account compromised a couple of days ago, spam naturally, and now the IP is blocked for delivering to gmail.com. We've completed the delivery problem form at support.google.com but if there is any way to speed up the process our customer and we would appreciate it. Could

Re: gmail.com contact

: -Original Message- From: Markus [mailto:unive...@truemetal.org] Sent: 26 septembre 2013 07:37 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: gmail.com contact Hi list, We had a user account compromised a couple of days ago, spam naturally, and now the IP is blocked for delivering to gmail.com. We've

Filter-based routing table management (was: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size)

On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... If there were ever were a need for an market/settlement model, it is with respect to routing table slots. As it is, we have no real feedback mechanism in the present syste

Re: Suggestion on Fiber tester

* blake.mailingl...@pfankuch.me (Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List) [Thu 26 Sep 2013, 05:28 CEST]: To follow up, all of this fiber is mm and all light is sx to sfp. Currently all 1gbit, but it will be repulled as 10gbit capable soon... I guess I'm going to have to be a little less cheap and shoot

RE: minimum IPv6 announcement size

There are many ways to mediate this. No matter what one is chosen a balance between market, Networks and policy will need to be met. And in the end Networks will do what is best for their network. However if there is a norm of some kind, then at least there will be a target to hover around.

Re: Suggestion on Fiber tester

Welp. Not my duplicate (Received: headers show it happened inside the nanog mailing list server). Already asked them to investigate. -- Niels.

Re: Filter-based routing table management (was: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size)

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM, John Curran wrote: > On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > >> sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... > > If there were ever were a need for an market/settlement model, it is with > respect > to routing table slots. > T

Re: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

My recollection is that Renesys classified Sudan as a country vulnerable to disconnection due to low diversification of international transit; the old authoritarian preference on monopolizing the gateways has its advantages. I have been monitoring responsive hosts using ZMap every 15 minutes or so

Radware vs Arbor

Doing a bunch of research, and I can't find a meaningful comparison of these two products. Work for a carrier, and I am looking at implementing a DDoS mitigation service that we can sell to our customers. Radware is cheaper, but I am seeing a lot of noise in various forums that makes me question

RE: Suggestion on Fiber tester

If you're looking for cheap then go for a RY3200C, it retails for around $140. Kate

RE: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

Or the country as a whole had WAY too many iPhones in need of a 7.0 upgrade. Chuck -Original Message- From: Keith Medcalf [mailto:kmedc...@dessus.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Sudan disconnected from the Internet Of course it is entire

Re: Filter-based routing table management (was: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size)

y'know, it's funny. there is a market in ipv4 space. there is no market in routing table slots. perhaps this is not conspiracy but rather the market is speaking. of course, we can use the idea of a market in routing table slots, rack space, or coffee to distract from the artificial problems in

Re: Suggestion on Fiber tester

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 02:23:37AM +, Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List wrote: > I am in the market for a simple fiber tester. I have about 80 pairs running > through my complex and we are running into some possible issues with some of > the really old ones. The pen light to confirm that it's t

RE: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

We learned last week that iPhone updates cripple no network as they are regional and magical, simultaneously. ;) Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Chuck Church Date: 09/26/2013 10:44 AM (GMT-08:00) To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Sudan disconnected from the

Re: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Chuck Church wrote: > Or the country as a whole had WAY too many iPhones in need of a 7.0 > upgrade. > > Chuck Man, they should really install some Akamai servers! -Steve

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... The foundation of that, though, was ignorance of address space exhaustion. IPv4's address space was too small for such large thinking. IPv6 is far beyond enough to use such all

Re: Radware vs Arbor

For a DDoS solution; my experience leans on arbor's peakflow and their partnership with other upstream carrier's (Level3, Peer1, etc.) which makes sense since most of the attacks are distributed having recon work done by an organization like arbor makes you only worry about the attack types that co

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: >> sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... > > The foundation of that, though, was ignorance of address space exhaustion. > IPv4's address space was too small for su

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On 9/26/2013 1:07 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... The foundation of that, though, was ignorance of address space exhaustion. IPv4's

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > That's just it, I really don't think we actually have an exhaustion risk > with IPv6. IPv6 is massive beyond massive. Hi Darren, At one point, I saw a proposal to allocate IPv6 /15's to ISPs. One /16 so they could overlay 32 bits of IPv4

Re: Radware vs Arbor

Surely both vendors have gear in many of the Tier1 carriers whether it be for layered security or dual vendor approach. When it comes down to deciding between the two you need to consider the deployment models and techniques in use. These two vendors strong points are in two separate areas.

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 9/26/2013 1:07 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: >> >> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Darren Pilgrim >> wrote: >> >>> On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... >>> >>> The

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

>> sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... > The foundation of that, though, was ignorance of address space > exhaustion. no. ipv4 was the second time, not the first randy

Re: Filter-based routing table management (was: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size)

Oh this sure will be fun. For a good time, see how GSMA handles connectivity with IPXs. On Sep 26, 2013 1:28 PM, "William Herrin" wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM, John Curran wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > > >> sounds just like folks in

Re: Suggestion on Fiber tester

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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

I have heard a lot of questions and debate about whether the iOS updates download automatically: “Available updates download automatically if your device is connected to Wi-Fi and a power source.” http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4623 /mark

Re: BGP Attribute 128

On (2013-09-25 11:35 -0400), Jared Mauch wrote: Hi, > I'm not really in favor of the features vendors have provided, such as this > to just drop the attribute or routes. I would encourage customers to require in their transit agreements that bgp updates are not mangled by provider. It would hel

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Mark Lancaster wrote: > I have heard a lot of questions and debate about whether the iOS updates > download automatically: > > “Available updates download automatically if your device is connected to > Wi-Fi and a power source.” > > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT462

Re: BGP Attribute 128

I certainly agree. There is a very narrow case for filtering 128 as it's a VPN attribute that should not be in the big-I Internet. Jared Mauch > On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > Once those filters are deployed there will be strong resistance to remove > them.

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

Cutler James R writes: > On Sep 26, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Mark Lancaster wrote: > > > I have heard a lot of questions and debate about whether the iOS updates > > download automatically: > > > > “Available updates download automatically if your device is connected to > > Wi-Fi and a power source.”

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:29:17PM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > > sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... > > The foundation of that, though, was ignorance of address space > exhaustion. IPv4's address space was too sm

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

Yup. Seen/Heard all that. Even tooted that horn for a while. /64 is an artifical boundary - many/most IANA/RIR delegations are in the top /32 which is functionally the same as handing out traditional /16s. Some RIR client are "bigger" and demand more, so they get the v6 equvalent of /14s o

Re: BGP Attribute 128

On (2013-09-26 17:02 -0500), Jared Mauch wrote: > I certainly agree. There is a very narrow case for filtering 128 as it's a > VPN attribute that should not be in the big-I Internet. I can't think of application right now, but I'm not convinced there isn't application for 128 over INET. I know R