Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 09:31:13AM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote: > Probably only thing you could have done to plan against this, would have > been to have solid dual-vendor strategy, to presume that sooner or later, > software defect will take one vendor completely out. And maybe the

Re: Comcast NOC Contact

2013-03-04 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 3/3/13 3:35 PM, "Vinod K" wrote: >When we contacted Comcast for peering, Ren Provo explain that ratios r >balanced b/c of their media and cloud products... imbalance is common >misunderstanding. ExactlyŠ Jason

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > I know lot of vendors are fuzzing with 'codenomicon' and they appear not to > have flowspec fuzzer. i suspect they fuzz where the money is ... number of users of bgp? number of users of flowspec?

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-03-04 06:51 -0800), Leo Bicknell wrote: > From what I have heard so far there is something else they could > have done, hire higher quality people. Your solution to mistakes seem to be not to make them. I can understand the train of thought, but I suspect the practicality of such advice.

whois.radb.net returning blank results

2013-03-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
Looks like whois.radb.net is returning blank results. > pancake:/home/nick> whois -h whois.radb.net 198.41.0.0 | wc -l >0 > pancake:/home/nick> Those people who use the RADB IRRDB for generating filters / configuring routers might like to do some runs in their testing environment to ens

Re: whois.radb.net returning blank results

2013-03-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > whois -h whois.radb.net 198.41.0.0 fgets: Connection reset by peer :( larry blunk has helped in the past to fix this...

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 04, 2013, at 09:51 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > Any competent network admin would have stopped and questioned a > 90,000+ byte packet and done more investigation. Competent programmers > writing their internal tools would have flagged that data as out > of rage. The last couple words are the

Re: whois.radb.net returning blank results

2013-03-04 Thread Job Snijders
Hi, NRTM still works according to my mirrors. So for up 2 date data, you could use irr.ring.nlnog.net: Alice:~ job$ whois -h irr.ring.nlnog.net 198.41.0.0 | wc -l 437 Alice:~ job$ Kind regards, Job On Mar 4, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:24

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Warren Bailey
+1. >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" Date: 03/04/2013 11:46 AM (GMT-05:00) To: NANOG list Subject: Re: Cloudflare is down On Mar 04, 2013, at 09:51 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > Any competent ne

Re: whois.radb.net returning blank results

2013-03-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Job Snijders wrote: > Hi, > > NRTM still works according to my mirrors. So for up 2 date data, you could > use irr.ring.nlnog.net: > > Alice:~ job$ whois -h irr.ring.nlnog.net 198.41.0.0 | wc -l > 437 > Alice:~ job$ also, radb seems to have come back from t

Re: whois.radb.net returning blank results

2013-03-04 Thread Larry Blunk
Apologies, issues seem to have been caused by a slowish memory leak in IRRd and the process had begun to swap heavily when a regular maintenance thread ran. Regards, Larry On 03/04/2013 12:40 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Job Snijders wrote: Hi, NRTM

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > will fix the problem. It won't. Next time the issue will be > different, and the same undertrained person who missed the packet > size this time will miss the next issue as well. They should all be > sitting around saying, "how can we hire c

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-03-04 13:23 -0500), Jeff Wheeler wrote: > We have lots of stupid people in our industry because so few > understand "The Way Things Work." We have tendency to view mistakes we do as unavoidable human errors and mistakes other people do as avoidable stupidity. We should actively plan fo

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:40:58 +0200, Saku Ytti said: > Most people design only against 3), often with design which actually > increases likelihood of 2) and 1), reducing overall MTBF on design which > strictly theoretically increases it. I have to admit I've always suspect that MTBWTF would be a m

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 3 March 2013 23:31, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2013-03-03 12:46 -0800), Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > >> Definitely smart to be delegating your DNS to the web-accelerator >> company and a single point of failure, especially if you are not just >> running a web-site, but have some other independen

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-03-04 12:33 -0800), Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > to use http-acceleration services without DNS tie-ins. Last I > checked, CloudFlare didn't even let you setup just a subdomain for > their service, e.g. they do require complete DNS control from the > registrar-zone level, all the time,

"After Being Cut From Norway, The Pirate Bay Returns From North Korea" or is it just BGP Tricks

2013-03-04 Thread Bacon Zombie
The Pirate Bay have released a press release that they are now hosted out of North Korea: "The Pirate Bay has been hunted in many countries around the world. This is truly an ironic situation. We have been fighting for a free world, and our opponents are mostly huge corporations from the Unite

Re: cannot access some popular websites from Linode, geolocation is wrong, ARIN is to blame?

2013-03-04 Thread Bill Weiss
Constantine A. Murenin(muren...@gmail.com)@Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 01:58:09PM -0800: > Dear NANOG@, > Additionally, it seems like both yelp.com and retailmenot.com block > the whole 173.230.144.0/20 from their web-sites, returning some > graphical "403 Forbidden" pages instead. > And in regards to

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2013-03-04 13:23 -0500), Jeff Wheeler wrote: > >> We have lots of stupid people in our industry because so few >> understand "The Way Things Work." > > We have tendency to view mistakes we do as unavoidable human errors and > mistakes other p

Re: cannot access some popular websites from Linode, geolocation is wrong, ARIN is to blame?

2013-03-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/4/13 2:16 PM, Bill Weiss wrote: > > For what it's worth, I've contacted Yelp about this issue a number of > times, and they're wholly uninterested in traffic from Linode. They're > also unwilling to discuss the issue with someone coming from Linode. So, > good luck on that front! > With