On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
It's being implied everywhere that native IPv6 is somehow important to
seek, since we're running out of IPv4 addresses.
Ok, so I'll give you that tunneling a really short bit, tunneling isn't
too bad, but native is most of the time better.
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> reliable tunnel
bzzzt! oxymoron alert!!!
What is nifty.com? Is it legitimate? The web page is in Chinese.
I noticed they were trying to do a lot of connects to our mail servers
but were in the block list and seem to have been for years.
So I opened it up because fool that I am I like to believe people mend
their ways.
It instantly beg
Actually it's in Japanese. Nifty is one of the oldest (and at one time,
largest) access services in Japan. It's owned by owned by Fujitsu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nifty_Corporation
http://www.nifty.co.jp/english/
From here it looks like it's originated by AS2510, which is also Fujistsu.
So
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That's a really good point, Patrick.
We've received an interesting analysis from our customers recently where they
reviewed the accounting on all the services they need in order to peer off
approximately 1/3rd of their total traffic.
They took their national wavelength cost, local access, coloc
Actually it's in Japanese. Nifty is one of the oldest (and at one
From here it looks like it's originated by AS2510, which is also
Fujistsu.
So "it" is legitimate, even if the unwanted traffic your receiving is
not.
Owning and using a domain name with 1 character difference from Nifty,
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> The vast majority of AS-AS boundaries on the Internet are settlement free
> peering. I guess that makes the Internet a scam.
>
> As for the costs involved, "free" is a relative term. Most people think of
> peering as "free" because t
Hi,
> Ok, so I'll give you that tunneling a really short bit, tunneling isn't too
> bad, but native is most of the time better.
So sad that some companies mess up in such a way that their customers rather
tunnel than use their native infra... :-(
- Sander
On Dec 9, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> reliable tunnel
>
> bzzzt! oxymoron alert!!!
>
Intellectually I want to agree with you, but after some reflection...
We use lots of tunnels at my org - the IPsec variety. A quick non-scientific
query of our monitoring logs reveals that our t
>>> reliable tunnel
>> bzzzt! oxymoron alert!!!
> We use lots of tunnels at my org - the IPsec variety.
as does iij, very heavily. and it has some issues.
> A quick non-scientific query of our monitoring logs reveals that our
> tunnels are exactly as reliable as the circuits and routers which
>
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012, Ryan Malayter wrote:
But where are all these horrifically unreliable tunnels?
6to4 is one example.
I'd say since PMTUD is too often broken on IPv4 (if the tunneling routers
even react properly to PMTUD need-to-frag messages for their tunnel
packets) in combination with s
> > Ok, so I'll give you that tunneling a really short bit, tunneling
> isn't too bad, but native is most of the time better.
>
> So sad that some companies mess up in such a way that their
> customers rather tunnel than use their native infra... :-(
The ISPs are unfortunately behind what the tun
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