Charter Business IPv6 Contact?

2012-10-01 Thread dale
Apologies, as this was discussed recently. There was an engineer from Charter Business who was setting up IPv6 trials for Charter Business customers recently. If he is still lurking the list, can I ask that you contact me off-list to discuss this? Thank You. Dale Elfes

Re: is CERNET part of the Internet?

2012-10-01 Thread Yang Yu
Most networks have some sort of firewall (hopefully...) Isn't CERNET kind of similar to Internet2/NLR? Members own their network Free to join Serve education&research community Members encourage their users to use "the free network" instead of public network when possible Please correct me if I a

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-01 Thread Eric Adler
Why not RFC 5514 over RFC 2410 encryption over RFC2549 enhanced RFC1149 with all sessions padded with a number (generated by a server compliant with RFC3091) of the packets described in RFC6592? Oh, and don't forget to set the bit described in RFC3514 as appropriate. Or, ya know, one could just d

Re: /. Terabit Ethernet is Dead, for Now

2012-10-01 Thread Masataka Ohta
Tom Hill wrote: > Once you get your head (and wallet) around that, there becomes a case > for running each of your waves at 2.5x the rate they're employed at now. > The remaining question is then to decide if that's cheaper than running > more fibre. It depends on distance between senders and

Re: /. Terabit Ethernet is Dead, for Now

2012-10-01 Thread tom
On 2012-10-01 08:57, Masataka Ohta wrote: Tom Hill wrote: Once you get your head (and wallet) around that, there becomes a case for running each of your waves at 2.5x the rate they're employed at now. The remaining question is then to decide if that's cheaper than running more fibre. It de

Re: /. Terabit Ethernet is Dead, for Now

2012-10-01 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 1 Oct 2012, t...@ninjabadger.net wrote: If you can afford Wave Logic 3 interfaces for your Nortel^WCiena 6500's, you'll find some pretty impressive things are actually possible, including 100G per 100GHz guide over very large distances (think Atlantic-large). The amount of processing

Re: /. Terabit Ethernet is Dead, for Now

2012-10-01 Thread Masataka Ohta
t...@ninjabadger.net wrote: >> It depends on distance between senders and receivers. >> >> However, at certain distance it becomes impossible to use >> efficient (w.r.t. bits per symbol) encoding, because of >> noise of repeated EDFA amplification. > > <500km not enough? > > https://www.de-cix.n

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-01 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Jason Baugher wrote: > All they know is a consultant told them they needed to "do BGP" > with their ISP? what kind of consultant throws away the great billable hours that "design, configure, deploy, and test BGP session(s)" gives?! pretty sure I lived on setting u

Re: RFC becomes Visio

2012-10-01 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 28/09/12 22:18, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Hand draw two squares, label them "our AS" and "your AS" with a line > between them labeled "GigE". Bonus points for pencil. Don't forget have coffee mug stamp otherwise its unofficial diagram

So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Andreas Echavez
Hey guys, Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?)

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Kenneth McRae
Check out the Force 10 S4810 switch. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andreas Echavez wrote: > Hey guys, > > Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It > seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense > for our applications -- even if throu

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Jima
> Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It > seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense > for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If > anyone out there knows of any *copper* 10 gig-t switches (48 port?), I

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Andreas Echavez
Mostly backwards compatibility; simplicity. We're planning for some super-high-density virtualization/storage projects mixed in with lower bandwidth gear, and sticking to one type of cable for everything would be convenient. I thought DAC had some distance limitations as well. This is all speculat

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Jima
Gotcha. With SFP+ I think the only nod to backward compatibility would be 1gbit RJ-45 SFPs, which can get a little spendy in large numbers (although so can DACs). As for distance, I admit I haven't encountered any DACs longer than 15 meters (~49 feet) -- not that I'm positive they don't exist.

Data Center Flooring

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Keymer
We recently took possession of a building which part of it was used for a teleco room by a Cellular company. The floor looks like crap. So we were thinking about maybe just putting another new flooring on top. Currently it has some type of tile looking flooring. I have been told the the entry w

RE: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Tribble, Wesley
10Gbase-T doesn't make much sense for a new virtual environment. Once you factor in the cost of the cabling and power, you probably would have been better off with DAC or FET interconnects. Also 10Gbase-T does not necessarily work with Legacy wiring, depending upon how it was run. Large bundl

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article , Andreas Echavez wrote: >Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? It >seems like the standard just died out. Well, our new supermicro servers come with 10Gbase-T standard on the motherboard. >For us it would make a lot of sense >for our applications -- eve

Re: Data Center Flooring

2012-10-01 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 1 Oct 2012, Mark Keymer wrote: I know in the past there have been talks about datacenter flooring. (Even Carpet if I recall). What I am wondering is does the actual datacenter flooring need to be like Static Dissipating. (Found something that does that for about $10.00 a Sqr foot). Or

Re: Data Center Flooring

2012-10-01 Thread David Storandt
If you are thinking of VCT, try stained+polished concrete. Naturally grounded for low-humidity spaces, supports >3500PSI point loads, and much better looking. >> I know in the past there have been talks about datacenter flooring. (Even >> Carpet if I recall). What I am wondering is does the actua

Re: So what's the deal with 10Gbase-T

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Atkinson
Andreas Echavez wrote: Hey guys, Does anyone here have experience running copper 10Gbase-T networks? Yes. > It seems like the standard just died out. For us it would make a lot of sense for our applications -- even if throughput and latency aren't as great. If anyone out there knows of any

[NANOG-announce] NANOG Election Update

2012-10-01 Thread Betty Burke
Colleagues: The final stages of our annual NANOG Election process is underway. Today, October 1, 2012 is the last day to submit nominations to the NANOG Board of Directors. The NANOG Board is responsible for ensuring NANOG operates in a way that is consistent with our Bylaws, financially sound, a

[NANOG-announce] Maintenance Notification for Wednesday, October 3rd, 2012 at 11am Eastern

2012-10-01 Thread Randy Epstein
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[liberationtech] The Hidden Internet of Iran: Private Address Allocations on a National Network

2012-10-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
Sounds just like CGN. - Forwarded message from Collin Anderson - From: Collin Anderson Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:06:34 -0400 To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu Subject: [liberationtech] The Hidden Internet of Iran: Private Address Allocations on a National Network Reply-To: l