RE: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Jamie Bowden
> Justin M. Streiner > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, TJ wrote: > > > My understanding, and experience (albeit with Android), is that all > VZW LTE > > is IPv6-capable. > > > > I'd love to hear if Apple or VZW is at fault here, or if something > weird is > > happening ... > > I don't know about Apple devi

Re: Real world sflow vs netflow?

2012-09-21 Thread Benoit Claise
http://www.plixer.com/blog/netflow/netflow-vs-sflow-for-network-monitoring-and-security-the-final-say/ Regards, Benoit. Can anyone on or off list give me some real world thoughts on sflow vs netflow for border routers? (multi-homed, BGP, straight v4 & v6 only for web hosting, no mpls, vpns, vla

Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What software/equipment do we need in place as a ISP to ensure these customers can rea

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:15 PM, PC wrote: > "Please don't hack or ddos it :-) " > > Unfortunately, while you do get an ipv6 address, mobile terminated data > doesn't work, so you don't have to worry about this. It is firewalled by > Verizon. > T-Mobile USA allows mobile terminated data on IPv6

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-09-21 15:31 , Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much > documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to > point me in the right direction? > > Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What software/equipment do we > nee

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much documentation > on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to point me in the > right direction? This all depends on how your manage your last-mile and terminate users

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Richard Barnes
The folks that have done the most work in enabling IPv6-only end users seem to be CERNET2 in China. To let people get to v4, they're using what they call IVI (get it?), which is basically NAT64+DNS64. If you don't mind runn

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/21/12 6:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: On 2012-09-21 15:31 , Mark Radabaugh wrote: The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
So I'm back at the office this morning and the iPad is *not* getting an IPv6 address but is showing LTE service. It did do IPv6 over LTE at home so it's not a device problem. So I suppose the closest tower to my office is not IPv6 enabled. Is this an expected behavior in some areas or something th

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-21 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Tony Hain wrote: >> where an IPv6 multicast RA allows all the devices to >> configure based on reception of a single packet. > > You miss multicast storm caused by DAD. This is a long solved issue. First, it already occurs with ARP broadca

TWTC BGP IPv6 /40 prefix

2012-09-21 Thread Ben Bartsch
I am trying to add a /40 prefix to be accepted by a couple of TWTC circuits we have in Louisiana (Shreveport and Baton Rouge). My only options available are /32, /48, /56, /64 in the web portal. Is there somebody from TWTC that could contact me off list? Thanks. -bb

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-21 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 21/09/2012 00:47, Tony Hain wrote: > You are comparing IPv6 to the historical deployment of IPv4. Get with the > times and realize that CGN/LSN breaks all those wonderful location-aware > apps people are so into now, not to mention raising the cost for operating > the network which eventually ge

Re: the economies of scale of a Worldcon, and how to make this topic relevant to Nanog

2012-09-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jo Rhett" > Those of us who feel Internet access is mission critical carry LTE > network devices or make other arrangements. Obviously the growth of > smartphones and tablets is starting to change that equation, but at > the moment none of the Worldcons have

Re: Real world sflow vs netflow?

2012-09-21 Thread Peter Phaal
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > Most of the platforms I know of do sampled netflow at 1:100-1:1000 or so, > and then I don't really see the fundamental difference in doing the flow > analysis on the router itself (classic netflow) or doing the same but at the > sFlow

Re: Verizon IPv6 LTE

2012-09-21 Thread Dan Drown
Quoting Randy Carpenter : Safari is definitely preferring IPv4. In a happier note, if you tether a device via hotspot on an IOS6 iPad, the clients get native IPv6. Strangely, they get addresses out of the same /64 as the iPad's LTE interface. Anyone know how that is working? I would have tho

RE: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-21 Thread Tony Hain
> -Original Message- > From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:13 AM > To: Tony Hain > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 > > On 21/09/2012 00:47, Tony Hain wrote: > > You are comparing IPv6

Weekly Routing Table Report

2012-09-21 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
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Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
On 9/21/12 9:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: On 2012-09-21 15:31 , Mark Radabaugh wrote: The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What

http://www.isc.org/software/aftr

2012-09-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
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Re: http://www.isc.org/software/aftr

2012-09-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I see your url and raise you a youtube video ... http://youtu.be/bqi-_d4C5xg

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Seth Mos
Op 21-9-2012 21:42, Mark Radabaugh schreef: Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in spending a lot of resources on someth

Re: the economies of scale of a Worldcon, and how to make this topic relevant to Nanog

2012-09-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > And this is pretty much precisely why I'm hammering the nail; there's > *lots* of stuff that could -- and properly should -- be technology > assisted at the world's largest gathering of science fiction enthusiasts. No point in building fast acc

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-21 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 20-Sep-12 20:51, George Herbert wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Stephen Sprunk > wrote: >> Actually, they're not any different, aside from scale. Some >> private internets have hundreds to thousands of participants, and >> they often use obscure protocols on obscure systems that were

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:42:20 -0400, Mark Radabaugh said: > Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with > CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the > customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in > spending a lot of res

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-21 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 21/09/2012 19:23, Tony Hain wrote: > App developers have never wanted to be aware of the network. By not sitting down and thinking about the user experience of a dual-stacked network, we have now forced them to be aware of the network and that's not a good thing because they are as clued out ab

The Cidr Report

2012-09-21 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 21 21:13:04 2012 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2012-09-21 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 13-Sep-12 -to- 20-Sep-12 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS840250791 1.7% 24.9 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom" 2 - AS982936316 1.2

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread TJ
> Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in spending a lot of resources on something the consumer can't currently use. > Note: S

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-21 Thread Masataka Ohta
William Herrin wrote: >> You miss multicast storm caused by DAD. > Second, in the hotspot scenarios where this is likely to be a problem > (in IPv4 -or- IPv6) it's addressed by the "AP isolation" feature As you stated : I think Masataka meant to say (and said previously) that the DHCP : request

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:22:18 -0400, TJ said: > > Running dual stack to residential consumers still has huge issues with > CPE. It's not an environment where we have control over the router the > customer picks up at Walmart. There is really very little point in > spending a lot of resources on s

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Dhcpv6, radius .. take your pick --srs (htc one x) On Sep 21, 2012 7:04 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" wrote: > > The part of IPv6 that I am unclear on and have not found much > documentation on is how to run IPv6 only to end users. Anyone care to > point me in the right direction? > > Can we assign IPv

Re: Throw me a IPv6 bone (sort of was IPv6 ignorance)

2012-09-21 Thread Mark Andrews
On 22/09/2012, at 12:04 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> Can we assign IPv6 only to end users? What software/equipment do we need in >> place as a ISP to ensure these customers can reach IPv4 only hosts? > > I would say you want to do dual-stack, but shift the users that don't *need* > public IPs i

Re: Real world sflow vs netflow?

2012-09-21 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 22, 2012, at 12:40 AM, Peter Phaal wrote: > However, moving the flow generation out of the router gives a lot of > flexibility. Actually, moving it out of the router creates huge problems and destroys a lot of the value of the flow telemetry - it nullifies your ability to traceback w

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-21 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Masataka Ohta wrote: > William Herrin wrote: >> that's getting close to omnipresent even in the low end APs. With this >> feature enabled, stations are not allowed to talk to each other over >> the wlan; they can only talk to hosts on the wired side of the lan. >>