Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "George Bakos" > Key features required: > > Running an OS that can be patched/updated by someone other than the > machine vendor I assume you mean the machine proper. Hopefully that will be a stock unit; I don't really want to get into building vending mach

Simple Cable Marking Standards

2012-02-17 Thread Don Gould
I would like to make a wiki page with links to useful resources. This issue cased me problems last week. I don't know what the conventions are. I don't know what the best tools are. I don't know what others are doing. I don't have good examples. I am interested specifically in 'very small, e

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
I still long for the day when someone makes a true 16550 based USB to serial adapter... Some of the stuff I need to reprogram at the shop at times does not like the cheapie chips that are most common - I've bricked an APC network manager card at least once for that specific reason... says

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
7 - compressed air can to clean dust dust?!?!? sounds like time to find a whole new colo and move everything out of there haha. i've -never- encountered one with dust in it. that stuff usually gets sucked out before it gets the idea to land on anything should it even get in in the first pla

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
My ideal vending machine would dispense Cat5e by the foot, the more you pull the more you pay, RJ45 plugs in pairs, and a crimp tool on a long chain (like the way you buy chain in a hardware store) Aled except for that -usually- when you -need- the crimp tool, you only know at which position

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
rfid scanner for billing through the datacenter bill with your access card. (which is linked to your customer id anyway ;) On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, George Bakos wrote: Key features required: Running an OS that can be patched/updated by someone other than the machine vendor Deployment in a screen

RE: Simple Cable Marking Standards

2012-02-17 Thread George Bonser
> From: Don Gould > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:18 PM > To: North American Network Operators' Group > Subject: Simple Cable Marking Standards > > I would like to make a wiki page with links to useful resources. > > This issue cased me problems last week. > > I don't know what the conventi

Re: Simple Cable Marking Standards

2012-02-17 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Don Gould wrote: I would like to make a wiki page with links to useful resources. This issue cased me problems last week. I don't know what the conventions are. The conventions often work back to whatever is appropriate in your environment. Some people use TIA/EIA 606-A

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: 7 - compressed air can to clean dust dust?!?!? sounds like time to find a whole new colo and move everything out of there haha. I also hope that duster can would not be used by someone who is attempting to clean fiber end-faces. Incredibly b

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi, On Feb 18, 2012 5:35 AM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. Similar topic with mostly useful ideas here: http://lis

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Aled Morris" > >> On 17 February 2012 18:43, Eric Tykwinski >> wrote: >> >> > +1 for GBICs, SFPs > >> You'll need to be carrying a lot of loose change then :-) > > In fact, vending machines with builtin

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: > > On 17 Feb 2012, at 20:10, "Peter Kristolaitis" wrote: > >> On 12-02-17 03:05 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: >>> Did anybody say beer yet? >>> >> >> Don't forget the 30lb sledgehammer for those times when, ah, "percussive >> maintenance" is the

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, George Carey wrote: > >> >> The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept >> cash.  You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web >> portal and keep the card in the facility in your space.  If something is >> needed,

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:00 PM, George Herbert wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, George Carey wrote: >> >>> >>> The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept >>> cash.  You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web >>> portal and keep the ca

X.509 Certs For Personal Use

2012-02-17 Thread Leo Bicknell
On the heals of some of the most productive conversation I've seen on NANOG in ages, let me try another topic! I suspect most people on NANOG are in the same boat that I'm in, we operate some small number of domains for ourselves, friends, family, and projects we like. I suspect many of us are a

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:02, George Herbert wrote: >> Will IANA accept netblock transfers as an exchange medium for >> datacenter goodies vending machine payments? ...  ;-) > > Joking while busy discouraged.  s/IANA/ARIN/d'oh I suspect ARIN would follow its policy to recognize any transfer

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2012/2/18 Justin M. Streiner > On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > > 7 - compressed air can to clean dust >>> >> >> dust?!?!? sounds like time to find a whole new colo and move everything >> out of there haha. >> > > I also hope that duster can would not be used by someone who is a

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread R. Sami
When I bring up Linux ISOs to the believers of this misconception, they generally argue that Linux ISOs can be obtained without BitTorrent as well so blocking BT is okay. But I believe it is up to the user to decide which protocol to use to obtain the data and if the user wants to use BT bu

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
I have, on occasion been away from my laptop and gotten the call to go to the colo and deal with XYZ hardware problem and the colo was either: A in the opposite or orthogonal direction from my house and significantly closer or B the colo was between my present location. In such cases, I will o

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:23 PM, david raistrick wrote: > On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote: > >> 6 - plastic cable clamps (don't know the exact english term for that but I >> mean this --> >> http://www.hellopro.fr/images/produit-2/9/3/8/serre-cables-261839.jpg) > > also known as "zip

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 17, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Aled Morris wrote: > On 17 February 2012 18:43, Eric Tykwinski wrote: > >> +1 for GBICs, SFPs >> >> > You'll need to be carrying a lot of loose change then :-) > > My ideal vending machine would dispense Cat5e by the foot, the more you > pull the more you pay, RJ

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 17, 2012, at 11:04 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:13 PST, Owen DeLong said: >> Now, come on... If you're in the 40-50 range, you should have put octal >> before hex. :p > > IBM S/360 definitely preferred hex. And EBCDIC. > Strictly an artifact of it's EB

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 2/17/12 5:17 PM, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: I still long for the day when someone makes a true 16550 based USB to serial adapter... Some of the stuff I need to reprogram at the shop at times does not like the cheapie chips that are most common - I've bricked an APC network manager card at leas

Re: X.509 Certs For Personal Use

2012-02-17 Thread John Levine
I use these guys: http://www.cheapssls.com/ They sell Geotrust and Comodo certs for under $10/yr. The hassle level is quite low. First you order a cert providing the usual billing info, then you go to their web site, pick the order you just paid for, go to a screen where you paste in your signin

Re: Simple Cable Marking Standards

2012-02-17 Thread Andy Johnson
Some of it "looks" really nice but can be a pain to work with, too so you have to consider how it would be to have to pull a blade from that switch that looks really nice at first until you consider having to actually replace anything in that network. This advice is huge, and often only learne

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > ICMP is evil. To that I would add under... Security misconceptions 0. Security is just common sense. a. More draconian/more complicated policies/practices automatically result in a good secure, usable environment.

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Bob Vaughan
"Ethernet/Token Ring/Cisco Console/whatever uses an RJ45 connector" RJ45 defines a keyed 8P8C type connector, wired in a specific manner, for a specific 2 wire telco service. Incompatible with the above on several levels. "RJxx" == specific connector/wiring pattern for specific telco applic

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 49, Issue 84

2012-02-17 Thread dgdalton99
range, you should have put octal > before hex. :p IBM S/360 definitely preferred hex. And EBCDIC. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 865 bytes Desc: not avail

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 05:39:34PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: > In such cases, I will occasionally stop by the colo without going home to > retrieve the laptop. 90% of the time it works out OK. 10% of the time I > end up leaving the colo, going home, retrieving the laptop and returning > to the co

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 49, Issue 70

2012-02-17 Thread Mike Bailey
I have yet to receive one of these, but I rarely post to nanog. Could you post up the email headers for us to see? I'm curious to see if it actually originated from a telx mailserver, according to their TXT/SPF records they use messagelabs.com, mktomail.com, and intermedia.net. On 02/17/2012

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Paul Graydon
Give me someone who can already think and analyse over someone who 'knows' it all, any day. You can be qualified to the hilt but absolutely useless in the real world (I've watched CCNP and higher struggling to figure out why they can't ping a 10.0.0.0/24 address at a customers remote site, not

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